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Exactly.

This is true, they are flexible but dependent on the style of football you play there is a big difference between 451 and 433.

Whats with the enigmatic answer, or do you just not have one? I thought as much.

What sickly horse? The truth or this fabrication you are trying to concoct of what actually happened? Tell me LI, if I am pro MM then why would I lie? I have no agenda, so why am I flogging this sickly horse (nice dismisal of my standpoint by the way, certainly got you out of the hole that was...

You contradict yourself a bit there LI. Do you think both our wingers decided on their own steam to sit out wide and stick to defensive roles? What you are suggesting is, MM has no control over the players or tactics.

The set up and the overseeing is done by Hinsh, but the coaching and managing was done by Wilkins with help from Vig Bragg.

Yes your right they weren't effective because they wer pushed out to far wide and clearly told to focus to much on their defensive duties thus giving the 451 formation. I was there LI I saw it with my own eyes. Also you say its not that many but you only proof for Wilkins not being given the...

Yes they did, the only one to push forward was Cox, but even that was fairly rare. Why can't you believe it if so many are saying it?

No no, us fans have no credibility (well at least me because as everyone will tell you I talk complete shit and know nothing about football). It was 433 coz the hacks say so and they are the only ones with credibility.

You must be genuinely stupid as he was a youth team and reserve team coach somewhere else (can't remember where) before he was a first team coach at leeds, so he didn't start his coaching career at Watford.

Is that not what I said?

You are gay! I probably will go to the game though if you want to go for some drinks first.

Im in Newquay. Probably gonna try and make it anyway. If you fancy a night out in Newquay after let me know, we have a 4 birth and there is only 2 of us in it til Thursday. Bumtastic!

I've just had the best cream coffee ever.

The act of someone purporting to be a journalist to give another, preferably a nubian male, a nosh.

Na, McCammon was next in the que.

No, Naylor gives it the big ones but it is all a front. I'm sure they came out the toilet together and Naylor was wiping his mouth.

If you look at their team layout sometimes I just cant work it out. And not just simple stuff like putting a LB at RB when it clearly never happened. Although the papers give a more unbiased assessment the journo may not go to that teams games that often so less aware of the team set up. Unless...

So that is 3 people saying it was 1 up front. Having read 4 seperate papers that gave wildly different marks to the England players I have to say I don't entirely trust the papers. Especially considering I question whether they have been at games with their tactical set ups sometimes.

On paper it was supposed to be but it clearly wasn't. The midfield was set to be to defensive, so you could blame the players but MM has told them to play that way. I am really glad he is getting them to play the football he is, but when the team is set up wrong for it that is a fundemental error.