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It's commonly accepted that Jesus existed, though the contemporary evidence is scarce, if non-existent. However, Judaism accepts he existed, as do Muslims, but they believe he was just another prophet.

I've not said whether or not I believe in God, but I have said several times on this thread that I think that God is a philosophical issue, not a religious one.

Thank you, but that says nothing about God healing the sick, only Jesus. At the beginning, though, it does say "faith is crucial".

Serious question: where did this claim come from, that God heals the sick?

To be fair to Derbygull, you were both banned, so he has chosen to ignore you so you don't both get banned again.

OK, thank you. I didn't immediately find your answer to be clear. Is the conscience a physical thing? Jesus was a Jew. Are Jews not considered white? Or do you have some other relevation to make?

Quote Originally Posted by HovaGirl View Post But do you not accept the existence of the human conscience? Obviously. We make rules and punish people when they disobey them, generally, for the good of society. Do you accept the existence of the human conscience?

I know.

I agree. But do you not accept the existence of the human conscience?

Spot on, Commander!

Your child is very young and it is difficult to explain death to them. My grandmother died when I was 12, and my mother told me Granny was watching me all the time and was with me. I didn't know Granny very well, but she was terrifying and the thought of her watching everything I did was very...

How do we know Neanderthals "didn't think twice about killing each other"? Men are still don't "think twice about killing each other" today. Everyone is born with a conscience, which is where our morality lies. Not everyone can or does use their conscience for guidance, however.

I agree with this and said as much earlier in the thread. Children can make their own minds up later, when they have more information and are capable of rational, independent thinking.

People are sheep. They often do or believe what is fashionable or what simply keeps them alive. The pompous Fry is so full of the self-importance of his own intellect, that he has become unbearable to listen to these days. But he has charisma, and charisma is in the nature of the leaders and...

Originally Posted by perseus View Post God exists. You can believe what you want, God still exists. No, neither statement is correct. Except to those who believe absolutely that God exists, or that God does not exist.

No, it doesn't. The thread asks how much we believe in God, presupposing there is one. The post to which you replied, said: "It's about belief. I don't have a belief in God,"

Not at all. It was 6 hours of reasoned debate and it just went to prove, philosophically, that you can reason yourself into and out of any argument. And that was the point of the debate, though we didn't know it at the time.

The Greyfriar's Bobby story was a myth, a marketing ploy, indeed!

They're in a real debate because there are those who believe in mystic happenings. I'm not necessarily one of them but I use some of them to illustrate the idea of a world beyond the purely physical.

Originally Posted by HovaGirl View Post ...there may well come a time when science can explain the more mystical things which people have claimed have happened.... We will never know because we will be long dead if it does.