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He was bit part for a reason. A reason that diminished by 90% when he was able to move closer to family. There were moments towards the end of last season when it was clear what he offers.

Apologies. That said, we may have no realistic option.

Unfortunately he needed to be in Germany :shrug:

Pure selfishness. These 'players'.

Player obviously has an attitude problem and is deliberately pricing himself out of Studegart's options just to piss off Tony Broom. Typical of the Dutch. Look at Danny Holler ???

He was trying to see if he could function, having had distractions back home so problematic (before Christmas last year) that he couldn't function. It wasn't really about 'fighting for his place'. When Stuttgart came calling, despite that fact Undav had started to fit into our team well, it...

Sorry mate. Not following what you're saying here. Either Stuttgart pay what we want or Deniz will have to come back here or go elsewhere. Perhaps a German club with a few more quid may be interested. Or perhaps Tony won't soak Stuttgart, and let him leave to a more unchallenging fee, in the...

How many times...... He is in Germany for family reasons.

He will stay in Germany. That's why he's in Germany. To be in Germany.

Decided?....I may be in danger of repeating myself here....we helped him out, and rather generously so.

Really? I thought the reasons were family.

He hardly played last season due to this (reported in the media and discussed on NSC). He then has a purple patch with us and is then immediately off to das Vaterland. I have simply done the maths.

annoying? cider? my beating heart? :wink:

Something happened in the autumn of 22. Dunno what. Private matter. I'd love to see him back.

He has gone back to Germany for family reasons. Nothing more to it than that.

I don't think we have any evidence of that. However what we do know is he hardly played this time last year due to a family issue. He was evidently quite depressed. And it seems almost certain he is playing in Germany now so he can be close to his family. That's why the loan seemed baffling at...

He could well be back. Who nose?

And the kid in the back seat repeatedly asking 'are we there yet?'. I'll pop back on the thread tomorrow evening for an exciting update.

Has he left yet?

Don't be rude, dear. I can count syllables ???