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He was a publicity stunt - not relevant to any of us, really. Maybe his mum, perhaps ......................?

Sid Vicious. Couldn't play. Couldn't sing. (probably) killed his girlfriend, swore a lot, generally a potty-mouth, died from an overdose. .....but boy, oh boy - what good publicity to have a punky looking bloke called Sid Vicious in a punk band, even if he couldn't play. Nice one Malcolm!

Grateful Dead. No hype? NO F***ING HYPE? Geez - that band was made on 100% hippy far out yeh man hype! Perhaps you were too young!!! ...and you've listened to hours of Eastern European electro noise but never heard the Grateful Dead? :facepalm: I've got a couple of Grateful Dead albums. TBH...

No, but if you're looking for the ultimate 'manufacturing' there was never a worse example than replacing Glen Matlock with probably the worst bass guitarist since Stuart Sutcliffe just because he looked like (and was) a gobbing, vicious little punk!

Good summary - the Americans may have coined the word 'punk' as a genre of music, but Iggy, MC5, New York Dolls - nah, not really. It was English bands that actually got it. Personally never took to the Sex Pistols, but The Damned, UK Subs, The Ruts, The Buzzcocks, Siouxie, The Undertones, The...