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  1. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    The Swiss have got the right idea! http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/15/switzerland-joins-denmark-in-seizing-assets-from-refugees-to-cover-costs
  2. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do.
  3. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    http://news.sky.com/story/1546830/rail-track-refugee-wished-family-were-dead The fella in the New York baseball cap that pulled his Mrs and child into the train tracks, refugee or economic migrant or both? All I can tell is these people are healthy, well clothed and have money. I understand (if...
  4. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    The BBC report where the police cordons were removed and there was a huge scramble for the train which they falsely thought was going to Germany. There was a stampede. Again mostly young men, hardly any families. but this isn't about who bought a ticket. It's about if you are a geniune asylum...
  5. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    Most hadn't paid and they stormed the train and didn't even know the destination. Mostly young men.
  6. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    Yes and from those camps, European countries can then grant asylum from those camps. This is the point, granting asylum from the camps rather than from thousands illegally crossing borders into and around distinguishes those in need from those travelling for other economic reasons. If they are...
  7. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    Not just on here, but everywhere. I pointed out that fact earlier, you only have to look at this thread title. Point is that yes our borders need tightening especially to illegal non EU migrants and also correct measured Asylum granted, but not to those illegally crossing into Europe but those...
  8. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    There are camps in Hungary for those you speak of. Hopefully they will be rescued and be quite happy to be relocated anywhere in Europe. However, the thousands of others (mostly young men in Nike trainers and reebok tops) that are like you say goading the police, will most likely not give up on...
  9. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    I'm not a Cameron fan but I think he's responded in the right way. The UK will only take in Refugees from the camps and therefore cut out the dangerous travel to Europe and gangs operating to smuggle. Also then we can distinguish between a refugee and an economic migrant.
  10. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    I am a Polar opposite to you CF in our views on the EU and the UK's membership of it. I think we belong firmly in it. But your point is a very valid one. As I said in my post above. If we are to take in thousands refugees, we are shunning our own populous that are on or below the poverty line...
  11. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    I don't have to. That's Cameron's job. It's not like the Syrian war has just started. Those 350000 are in those figures over the past 5 years. Yet last week there was outrage at the sheer Net migration numbers, and this week pressure to add to that figure. Just a week in politics.
  12. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    Correct the UK has taken in 350,000 since 2011 5,000 have been allowed to stay permanently. Also look at the OP, it was about how the government have failed to get Net migration to tens of thousands instead of 100's of thousands? And yet this week...the government gets hammered for not taking...
  13. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    A few observations. After seeing report after report of Migrant crisis in Calais, Greece, Budepest etc.. Why are 90% or so of these migrants men? Where are all the women especially young women? Occasionally we'll see a woman holding a young kid but outnumbered about 10 to 1 by men. Also how can...
  14. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    If your aim is to travel all the way to the UK Germany Sweden etc from North Africa then most likely you are an economic migrant. If you want to escape your war torn home country but then return when it's safe then you are a refugee. Unfortunately I think there are a lot of 'migrants' that fall...
  15. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    Non EU targets have been missed. So I think you are trying to twist what I said regarding Cameron's failing. The UK does have a mandate for control of its borders of non EU migrants, yet they fail to stop illegal migration. Setting up UK border controls at Calais and Dunkirk and all ports...
  16. Captain Sensible

    UK net migration hits record high

    It's a mess at the moment. I am pro EU but the influx into the Schegen area should be a wake up call and the Schegen agreement should be disbanded. More because mainland European countries will be overrun with non EU immigrants than the UK. Dispite the Calais mess, we take in a relative small...
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