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Actually quite a bit of this thread wasn't about Murray but Palace fans saying they hadn't really been in self-inflicted financial trouble, they'd just been a bit 'unlucky'. Unbelievable. So yeah, on reflection 'nonsense' is actually a pretty good word.

Yes, we probably would. I'd like to think that we'd have a bit more grace than to come on other clubs' forums and boast about how 'successful' Administration was and how we're now a stable club that has learnt its lesson - but to be honest we'd probably do that as well! But that doesn't detract...

Yeah but why did you owe them money in the first place? Why were you in debt? Why couldn't you pay your bills? Could it have been anything vaguely to do with the fact that you were paying money you hadn't got to employ players you couldn't afford in the vain hope that it would all turn out all...

As I said I was well aware of how it worked - and it's 'cheating'. But we're not going to agree so let's leave it there. And yes we're lucky to have a sugar daddy, but his largesse is part of our 'means' so consequently we're not living beyond our means and all our creditors get paid. Crap...

How can they afford to do that when they've just come out of Administration? Surely they haven't been able to pay back all their old debts already? (And yes I know that's not how it works, just making a point). I must admit I will give a hollow laugh if that happens. I SAID they should have...