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Isn't it to do with the inaugural Test World Cup championship due to be held in England in 2017? Had they waited for the away Ashes which normally would have been winter 2014, the home Ashes would have then been the summer of 2017 and would have clashed with this Test World Cup. That's what I...

We're going to need more than just Johnson having a bad test I can assure you of that.

Really!? Even with those two held they'd have likely got 300+ if not more assuming that was a sufficient lift in our team to get their tail (which there wasn't in the first test). Not sure where I see that being relevant given we can't really get over 200. Carberry was out LBW first evening...

I wouldn't right now, because that could destroy him more than this actual series will. But as a completely left field creative thinking, I'd chuck it to KP. Yes, the man that text the opposition taking the piss out of his own team mates. Yes, the man that often bats for himself and not the...

I don't think you can drop Cook either as a player or as a captain right at this moment. But there is no doubt being captained has dramatically altered his mindset as batting. I won't go over my previous post, but when Cook had problems outside off stump in 2008/09, to the point of being...

I think the point being that in a test match you are defending, you shouldn't be getting out to a fair few balls that are no where near hitting the stumps. In test cricket, if you are batting for your lives, leave as much as you can, make them bowl at the stumps, then as you say pick them off on...

It's an interesting debate about Cook. Pre-captaincy at the start of his career he had a woeful technical problem outside off stump playing away from his body. At the end of 2009, they ironed this out, not through a great development of his technique he developed a mental strength to leave...

I've been saying it throughout this thread, especially to those extolling the bowling of Johnson like he is some kind of unplayable paceman. He's still very playable, but you have to be selective in your shots. In the 2 test matches, of our top 6 batsmen, Johnson has 8 wickets. 1 clean bowled...

Genuine pace bowling!? Do me a favour we were getting caught at short midwicket playing woeful shots, Mitchell Johnson hasn't suddenly turned into Geoff Thompson but he may as well have done with our batting. Bell looked nonplussed as everyone toppled around him - he made it look easy.

32 runs for 9 wickets in that innings. Unbelievable.

People said par was 400!!! :lolol: :facepalm: 3rd innings of an Ashes and still we can't make 200. This is getting beyond the realms of humiliating now...

Monty's faced more deliveries than Stokes, Prior, Broad, Swann & Jimmy added together!!! Only 3 of the entire team make double figures!!!! :lolol: :lolol: I'm not even angry now, negativity!? Ha ha my previous posts have boarded on ridiculously generous on how shambolic this bunch of over hyped...

Bloodyhell I was close with this prediction!!!

Carberry is no different to Rogers really, an experienced county player breaking into the international scene late on. Root is a tough competitor. Bell is as talented as anyone out there. I don't need to talk about anyone else as hopefully tonight no one else will need to bat! COME ON BOYS...

I might tune in afterall tonight now, this debate has been carthartic for me! :cheers:

So actually all that's different between yourself and those you say are negative is that you accept England being average and beaten as that is par for the course. I'm actually thinking it's you that's negative as me and Vegster and the like are actually positive enough to believe our team...

I don't disagree with that. Although, I would say that the first warning signs were that awful series against Pakistan in Dubai, and then not fairing all that much better in Sri Lanka. But we seem to turn up a performance that gives you so much hope. The 2-1 in India seemed to show signs we were...

Amen to that. I can only assume we have some younger posters who really don't remember the summer of '89 through to that humiliating winter of 2002/03. 15 very painful years. I was hoping to give them at least 5 years of pain back, but it's not looking likely!!

Picture is correct, that is his off stump being clipped, he's leading with his wrong leg because he's basically wanted to come forward with his right leg, but sh*t himself at the pace and stepped back, hence the odd looking picture of his wrong foot forward, and his whole body angled like he is...

I'm of course hoping as you are, and watching because I love the game, but I need to see us battle, to dig it out. Cook our captain comes out and he looks woeful. At least Root, bless him and credit where credit is due, was prepared to wear a few balls to his body and stand up and be counted...