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I think it's a natural time for Flower to go. Remember he recently had treatment for skin cancer, and he's also made it clear he wants to spend more time with his grandkids, reading between the lines I rekon he wanted to jack it in when that happened but the ECB persuaded him to stick around for...

While I agree with the sentiment of dropping some players I think Perth is probably the hardest place in the world for a test cricketer to make his debut so Ballance would be on a hiding to nothing, I'd save him for Melbourne. My only change would be Finn for Swann who seems to have lost some...

If Panesar gets a double hundred we can still win this!

If Anderson gets a double hundred we can still win this!

If Swann gets a double hundred we can still win this!

If Broad and Prior both get double 100s we can still win this!

Can't argue with that :lolol:

Would you not just drop Panesar, bring in Ballance at 6 and play Stokes as a bowler, he can bat at 8. Stokes did nothing wrong with the ball, I'd rather have him than Finn.

FFS warner, how are you catching that!! Catches win matches. I'm out :cry:

KP keeps getting out playing the same shot :facepalm: Carberry is the only thing keeping me up at the moment, played really well so far. Stokes up next, then Prior - doesn't really inspire confidence does it!

I didn't mean like that though :facepalm:

Tidy start. They've done the right thing in playing themselves in. They now have to find a way to start scoring runs. The worst thing that could happen at the moment is letting Lyon pen them in, they need to play a few shots against him to push the field back.

Actually looking forward to tonight now. Love day 3 of a test, it's always pivotal one way or the other. Tonight is actually pivotal to the whole series, if we're bowled out by the end of the day then I'm afraid there's no way back. If we put up a decent total then it might just galvanise them...

It's a crazy crazy world! :lolol::facepalm:

It looks like it doesn't it :lolol: Seriously though, that's the simplistic answer to a complex problem. This side has always been brittle, it doesn't take much for the pendulum to swing between good and bad. Our good performances have been built on good starts from Cook, Strauss and Trott...

A big thing that you have to remember is that the longer the game goes on the more important the sessions get. To use a football analogy, in the summer the aussies were winning a lot of those session 1-0, then when it counted on days 4 & 5 we'd win a couple of session 5-0 and win the test. They...

See above my post above ^^^ I don't think any of us hold out much hope for a win, but it doesn't mean you can't still enjoy the game for what it is. FFS in the summer vegster (and you as well I think) was on every one of these threads constantly banging on about how shit we are in the tests...

The bit I've highlighted isn't true. For a couple of years they were in as much turmoil as any England team - in-fighting, rotation policy by the selectors, every player barring clarke out of form. I've just noticed mo gosfield is re-writing hostory as well. I think it's clear that this...

To be fair we look beaten in the field, heads are down and they've lost the extra yard that gets you those little half chances. Draw at best from this point, whoever lost the toss was always on the back foot

Wicket for Stokes called back for a front foot no ball - sums up our morning really. Been impressed with Stokes though, the only bowlers to make them look uncomfortable