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Good for you, we'll get you through your 11+ if it kills us :)

I will look out for improper use of pronouns and lack of distinction. I have had a bit of practice now :)

It is none of these things SM. It is the whole point of this thread. The media and many individuals (yourself included as you have admitted) do not make the distinction between 'Muslims and 'some Muslims' and this lack of distinction causes a lot of problems

Do you know what SM? I really would include 'some Muslims' when you make comments about Islam, it would save a bit of confusion. Especially on a thread which is specifically about how people fail to distinguish between 'Muslims' and 'some Muslims'.

So you are in fact generalising? as only 35% of Muslims live in those countries. What about the other 65%? You can't make any sound conclusion about a group of people based on 35% of their numbers. Especially when it is a huge stretch to assume that all 35% (or anywhere near all) 'love a ruck'...

Just to quote you fully. (sorry i was on my phone getting ready for work, fixed it now though) Are you saying I was wrong to assume that you were referring to Muslims when you said 'they love a ruck? What about the 90%+ of Muslim countries that are killing? What is that referring to?

"They love a ruck" I was referring to Looneys saying he disagrees with the main thrust of the argument. That is the main thrust of the argument and I just wanted to confirm that he disagrees with it. I am never quite sure if you do our not because you make comments like the one above and then...

It stands for many many things. Surely what a country stands for or is defined by is highly subjective? The point I am making is that I define Australia (and the UK for that matter) by many many things, their involvement in illegal wars is not one of them. I am guessing you do? To put it...

There are plenty of things not to love about Western Culture and to ignore them because there are other countries around the world that are worse off is pure folly. The wealth gap is getting wider, the rich richer and the poor poorer while dragging the middle class down into poverty also. This...

Yes they were involved in Vietnam and Iraq. I am not denying that they have got involved in wars. I am saying that getting involved is not what Australia 'stand for' in my opinion. I dislike the action but do not despise what Australia 'stands for'.

I believe that Australia 'stands for' many things. Getting involved in an illegal war is not one of them. Do you think the UK is defined by its involvement in the Iraq war?

So your belief is that Isis et al are representative of Islam as a whole?

I live in a western country and dislike many things that my governments do. Luckily though I don't see that the actions of those governments define me or my country. Disagreeing with and recognising the way your country acts is very different to despising what it stands for. Do you believe...

The only way that your list would really be useful though is if you posted a list of all atrocities committed across the world and then separated them into those committed in the name of Islam and other belief systems. what this may well tell you is that more atrocities are committed in the name...

I am still trying to get to the bottom the your comment that 'They like a ruck'. The 'they you were referring to was Muslims and i am still wondering what you are basing this on as most Muslims in the world (62% at the very least) are living peaceful lives like the rest of us. 35% are living in...

So when you say 'They (Muslims) love a ruck' you are suggesting that Muslims as a group love a ruck based on the fact that some in some countries are involved in fighting? 62% of Muslims world wide wide live in the Asia Pacific region and are not involved in fighting. 35% of Muslims live in...

But suggesting that Muslims love a ruck based on the actions of some Muslims is sound?

Dave is making the point that a bunch of extremist lunatics should not be see as representative of everybody else who follows the same religion. - Not sure why people are deciding to miss this point. Agree with your last point though

So you are suggesting that it is only Muslims that 'Love a ruck'? I think if you look at the facts (especially historically) you could politely say that most humans from most religions and most countries 'love a ruck'

So you disagree with a small part of his argument but agree with its main thrust?