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This isn't the point I was making though, I'm not a complete idiot. Although it's got to be a fact that whenever you gain points you go up the ladder, as there will always be some people above you they didn't go that one. So if you were really close to 381 you never know! The point was purely...

Yeah you may be right that maybe if it was obvious that going to West Ham would make sure you had the extra points in place before the Luton ticket sales, a few more may have purchased. But I'm not convinced it would have caused huge inflation in the points market for the top 1000. I'm probably...

Given the entire purpose of the comment was to illustrate how different on sale dates can affect people's tiers, isn't that exactly how it should be worded. But ok, if it had gone on sale last week I DEFINITELY would have been in the top tier. And if I'd have known that by sacrificing West Ham...

But we don't all know that do we? Because we have no as accurate idea when the games are going on sale. As I've said above if this game had gone on sale last week with West Ham points not allocated (I didn't go), I reckon I'd have got into the top tier. If it went on sale next week there's a...

What do you mean not real? If you're a handful of points off, when they choose to put the on-sale date, and whether it includes a recent game you may or may not have attended, is going to have a massive difference for those people. Obviously this can do some people some favours as well.

It would probably be 12-14 more. I know a lot of people who are in top tier and go to most games who didn't go. Obviously most of the top 1000 will have gone. There's no solution to this but it just shows that when points are added and when games go on sale can be really impactful on those who...

Yep - so if this went on sale next week there's no guarantee that I'd have got one with the Stoke points. But I reckon of the 1000 or so top, most were at West Ham, and if those points were speedily allocated, that probably pushed me out. So for those on the absolute borderline, who go most but...

Yes, you're right. I think (speaking for myself anyway) the issue is the rumoured inconsistencies with when points are allocated, mixed with the seemingly random on sale dates I appreciate I don't have my Stoke points, but if this game had gone on sale last week (and if West Ham points weren't...

I'm another one who misses out on Luton by a whisker - 378 points. Also gave West Ham a miss but went to Stoke, so a shame those won't be added when it sounds like West Ham were. I'm quite shocked to discover I've fallen so far as I still go very regularly - this will be the first time ever I've...