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While I'd suggest two wrongs don't make a right, it seems reasonable to hold people to account. Even more so when respected members of communities have had their names dragged through the mud, lost everything, been to prison, been made bankrupt and even killed themselves based on a bunch of lies...

I don't like the printed press in this country but I suspect they will destroy her tomorrow - doesn't need the BBC or ITV.

If you're struggling to sleep maybe email PBOBE that question and then read his reply in bed. :wink:

I think the OP was referring to the QC Mr Beer's reminder at the start of a question - it suggests in answering the question he next asked she could incriminate herself. Doesn't matter any way as Beer made her look a right lying plum and it's one day one of three with her on the stand - bring on...

Preferably for a crime she didn't commit, and then was found guilty and made bankrupt and imprisoned. Hopefully this lot are too old now to help her :

Point a - it's only been issued to a very small number of Subs and they've been underpaid for what they went through. Point b - we can only hope.

At least he had reason to .... PV's tears are nothing but a sham ....

It's very obvious which end of the call the recording was made from. I wonder if Second Sight thought, or knew, she was going to try and throw them under the bus ? Or am I being too cynical ?

You're dissing eels there !

That was Jamail Singh - the Post Office LAWYER on the stand today. I'm not sure how stupid he thinks the rest of us are but the idea that a highly paid professional lawyer doesn't know how to save an MS Office file is farcical. The bloke is a grade A corrupt, lying cvnt.

Not sure it's the public that is the issue - it's the PO execs and lawyers denying that there was ever access .... or at least that they never 'knew' about it. Equally, it should have been PCI-DSS compliant - unaudited backdoor access to the data is not allowed in a PCI environment.

Another IT lifer - and let's remember applications and data generally are kept separate with only the application having access to add, change or delete data and then only with detailed audit trails.

Supposedly some of the most intelligent and well paid professions yet every single one a liar with a poor memory. Think this shot of one of the PO's lawyers from today somewhat show's he knows he's been caught lying. As an aside, if I ever need a lawyer I want Jason Beer - great name and even...

For once I think this quote is valid "LOCK HER UP !"

Isn't that the same for all of them ? Every single one of the witnesses linked to the PO has started (and I paraphrase) 'I'm so sorry for the people that have been convicted unjustly.". Not a single one has held their hands up and said "Yes, I PERSONALLY got it wrong and should PERSONALLY be...

Just reading the updates on the BBC from PO Legal Counsel. Paula Vennells really does belong in prison .... and long may she rot there.

Cook and Crozier denying they knew anything about the issue and prosecutions somewhat shows up how useless they were at their jobs.

Lack of investment is what boils down to. I have a customer, I won't name them but they are a bank who everyone will have heard of, that has not invested in their IT infrastructure for years and keeps delaying projects to replace said EOL infrastructure. Yet they were surprised when it failed...

As someone that worked for Capita - who were a supplier of systems to HMRC - I call the HMRC statement out as utter bollocks. HMRC could never agree what they actually wanted from a system and then wondered why changes cost them money. Very similar to the NHS project EDS won to bring in a single...