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I wonder if, knowing how brutal Israel’s response would be, whether Hamas would do the same thing again with the attacks and hostage taking knowing this would be the outcome. I’m not making a point either way, just got me wondering. Hamas will have expected retaliation, but this? Essentially...

FFS. Why are people shitting up the thread. It’s like Swansman having a manic episode all over again.

It says that they’ve been repeatedly warned to stop attacking international shipping in the Red Sea. Then two days ago a resolution was passed by the UN Security Council telling them to stop. Then they did it again the next day with a new attack on British and/or American shipping/naval ships...

How? How isn’t the West coming out of this well? If Britain right now was firing missiles into the civilian and military escort shipping of another sovereign nation from Portsmouth, would we not expect repercussions? This is self-defence, clear as day. I really don’t understand any argument...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/01/11/joint-statement-from-the-governments-of-australia-bahrain-canada-denmark-germany-netherlands-new-zealand-republic-of-korea-united-kingdom-and-the-united-states/ JANUARY 11, 2024 Joint Statement from the Governments of...

I absolutely agree with you there.

I wouldn’t say I feel “happy” with the outcome. I’m saying that if a country was attacking your ships for weeks on end, a military response is inevitable. Wars have started over much less.

Out of interest, what would your solution be? Not having a go, genuinely curious. Obviously you’d like parliament to reconvene and debate this, gain cross-party support and then decide. In the mean time, what is your opinion of British warships and civilian/Danish/Norwegian merchant ships being...

That’s the problem, isn’t it. Because this government are so inept any sort of action, however justified/necessary, will be immediately politicised as being about the Tories, rather than about British interests coming under direct attack.

The sitting government is under no obligation to consult Parliament or gain their approval, although I do note the BBC saying that Starmer was invited to the briefing as a courtesy (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67954031). Terms like “illegal war” are entirely hyperbolic (at least, at...

I don’t know how Britain can be criticised this military response. Houthi forces have been launching continuous sustained attacks on warships and merchant vessels belonging to Britain, British interests and our allies. What do you do, turn a blind eye? Hope one of our warships isn’t sunk or...

You're always going on about Benjamin Netanyahu. Let it go, @ManOfSussex , you're never going to meet him

Absolutely, I wasn’t having a dig at anyone here.

Of course. But when Hamas attacked a sovereign state, there were always going to be repercussions. Where I think most of us agree is that it’s gone too far now, from righteous anger and tit-for-tat to outright attempted annihilation of Palestine. The bloodshed needs to end, but talking to...

What was the initial trigger which led Hamas (the terrorists) to attack, kidnap and rape Israeli (state) citizens in the first place on October 7th?

You had me in the first half…