Pevenseagull
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[News] “Fare dodgers. Bike thieves. Shoplifters. Weird Turkish barber shops…. It’s all chipping away at society”
- Thread starter The Clamp
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He does have a point though, lawbreaking is out of control
- Apr 5, 2014
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Bed ? You had a bed....
The failure to adhere to basic social norms is unravelling our society
I mean, why are we letting these criminals back into polite society?
The Clamp
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- #106
Last year I was sat in a cafe. Okay, The Rainbow.
Family behind me sat at a table. Mum, Dad, two young kids.
They had all their suitcases etc with them. Off on their holidays.
Overheard the man ask the woman
“Have you withdrawn all the child benefit and change to Euros yet”?
No. I’m using the PIP for spending money and CB for ciggies.
Honestly. That’s what they said.
In the 80’s if you were in benefits, you f***ing knew you were on benefits.
You didn’t swan off on holiday and spend it on fags. You’d starve.
This is the example kids are being given. Sit on your fat arse and contribute nothing and you’ll get given holidays and ciggies and slap up breakfasts.
That’s the issue right there. Something for nothing. Generation upon generation. That’s how we’ve got where we are.
Family behind me sat at a table. Mum, Dad, two young kids.
They had all their suitcases etc with them. Off on their holidays.
Overheard the man ask the woman
“Have you withdrawn all the child benefit and change to Euros yet”?
No. I’m using the PIP for spending money and CB for ciggies.
Honestly. That’s what they said.
In the 80’s if you were in benefits, you f***ing knew you were on benefits.
You didn’t swan off on holiday and spend it on fags. You’d starve.
This is the example kids are being given. Sit on your fat arse and contribute nothing and you’ll get given holidays and ciggies and slap up breakfasts.
That’s the issue right there. Something for nothing. Generation upon generation. That’s how we’ve got where we are.
If you can’t adhere to the same rules the rest of us do, frankly Jenrick is right, it is totally unacceptable
The Clamp
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- #108
You don’t need to ask permission to film on railway stations.
They are private property but the public have an implied invitation. Like car parks.
They can withdraw your permission to be there. They can withdraw your permission to film there. But you do not have to seek their permission to do so. It’s implied.
So unless he asked, was refused, and did it anyway, he’s done nothing wrong in this instance.
He’s done plenty of other shit but he’s okay here.
You do have to ask permission if you’re planning on using the footage for commercial or media use as opposed to personal use. Put simply, someone can video a train and stick it on their YouTube channel but not use it in a press release or stick it on TV.
Guidance for Rail Enthusiasts | National Rail
Help and guidance on trains and stations for anyone who is a trainspotter, a train buff, a rail fan, a rail enthusiast or even a ferroequinologist!
(This is for National Rail stations but the rules for TfL are the same)
I had a family of 15 come into my cafe the other day, Mum, Dad, and 13 kids.
Ask if we did Beluga Caviare on toast, when we said no, they asked for Wagyu beef sandwiches. Nope, don’t do that , says I. “Oh” one of the little scamps says” Not f***ing Lobster again, I’m fed up wif you spending our benefits on cheap shit Dad”
They then got up and left, but did leave a £50 tip that Dad said came out of their housing benefit.
Pevenseagull
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- Jul 20, 2003
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I say bed. Was a pile of pig shit. We used to dream of cow or horse shit because at least then we would be a bit more dry. Except that the cows and horses had bowel issues. ... But not no way near as bad as the pigs.
Great days.
Really f***ing character forming.
Pevenseagull
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- Jul 20, 2003
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Pevenseagull
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- Jul 20, 2003
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Gruel is definitely going to be "Insta" at some point.
The Clamp
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“You may take photographs or videos, as long as it is for your personal use. Commercial photography needs prior permission from Network Rail or the relevant train company.You do have to ask permission if you’re planning on using the footage for commercial or media use as opposed to personal use. Put simply, someone can video a train and stick it on their YouTube channel but not use it in a press release or stick it on TV.
Guidance for Rail Enthusiasts | National Rail
Help and guidance on trains and stations for anyone who is a trainspotter, a train buff, a rail fan, a rail enthusiast or even a ferroequinologist!www.nationalrail.co.uk
(This is for National Rail stations but the rules for TfL are the same)
Flash photography is not allowed. It could distract train drivers and platform staff, and is a potential safety hazard. You might be asked not to use a tripod at busy stations, as it could cause an obstruction. Also, you must keep tripod legs away from the platform edge and behind the yellow line.
You are not allowed to take photographs or videos of security related equipment such as CCTV cameras.
It’s all rather carefully worded. It references railway by-laws.
These Byelaws would have you believe anything and everything is illegal in a rail station.
The camera / cctv rule? - bollocks
Tripod use?- correct
No commercial use / permission for commercial use? - bollocks
They can ask you to leave for any of the above reasons. But you do not need permission for any of it.
It’s not bollocks, I personally know people who’ve been evicted from stations for this sort of thing (I’ve been threatened with it twice, but that threat wasn’t followed through with on either occasion)
The Clamp
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Yes. You can be evicted for these things. I have stated that twice now.
That wasn’t what I was saying. You don’t have to ask their permission. Permission is implied but can be withdrawn.
If they withdraw that implied permission you must cease or face being removed or possibly arrested if what you are doing is dangerous or comes under the terrorism laws.
Honestly, I’ve done the “dealing with auditors” training with BTP. You have to know your stuff. Those dweebs are everywhere now.
I didn’t mean to come across as aggressive there. The “bollocks” wasn’t aimed at you. But at the guidebook.
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I'd love to see Jenrick's reaction if he went up to York or Sheffield or half the platforms at Edinburgh and saw there aren't any barriers at all.
Pretty sure there weren't any when I used to get the train to/from Newhaven and Lewes for school and college either.
Pretty sure there weren't any when I used to get the train to/from Newhaven and Lewes for school and college either.
Pevenseagull
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- Jul 20, 2003
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One of my friend's kids did some intern work in a department that Jenrick had influence on.
No untoward seediness but evidently he was considered to be a feeble minded , bullying moron.
No untoward seediness but evidently he was considered to be a feeble minded , bullying moron.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Not sure what point exactly you are trying to get across here (well I do sort of) but ( and don’t take this the wrong way, I’m not attacking you) you have chosen a poor anecdote to make it imo:
Neither CB nor PIP are means tested benefits -people can get both even if they are earning a good income.