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[Food] MIDDLE CLASS THREAD ALERT! EXTRA-VIRGIN OLIVE OIL! WTF???







Bakero

Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
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Almería
WATFORD zero said:
I've got three olive trees and get similar results, 2 or 3 olives rising to 5 on a good year. Maybe mine are all the same sex :wink:

And it's not as if you can eat fresh olives, they need to go through a curing process first which seems a little over the top for the numbers I get.
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I once bought some fresh olives and tried to cure them. Let's just say it didn't go as planned.
 




The Fifth Column

The Fifth Column

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Nov 30, 2010
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I think I can live without Olive Oil and Anchovies but it is worrying the effect of climate change on everyday products. It'll be interesting to see if certain crops start getting grown further north or in areas that previously were considered unsuitable.
 


Bakero

Bakero

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The Fifth Column said:
I think I can live without Olive Oil and Anchovies but it is worrying the effect of climate change on everyday products. It'll be interesting to see if certain crops start getting grown further north or in areas that previously were considered unsuitable.
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Currently, a large proportion of the fruit and veg eaten in the UK is grown in the vicinity of Europe's only desert. So although it's possible that we'll see previously unsuitable crops growing further north, it may not be a necessity. The methods and systems used in Almeria may have to spread to other areas.

It ain't pretty, but it works.
 
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Tim Over Whelmed

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You'll see numerous food manufacturers' posting record profits over the coming months. Remember those companies as those were the ones hyping the inflation we had and profiteering to make it far worse, Greggs were one they'll be loads of others.
 


Colonel Mustard

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The Fifth Column said:
I think I can live without Olive Oil and Anchovies but it is worrying the effect of climate change on everyday products. It'll be interesting to see if certain crops start getting grown further north or in areas that previously were considered unsuitable.
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There’s an upside. Sussex is gaining a global reputation for its vineyards and particularly its sparkling wines. As well as the same chalky soil our vineyards are now reaching the same temperatures enjoyed in the Champagne region not so long ago. Not exactly a total consolation for climate change but y'know, there are minor benefits.
 


Boroseagull

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Bakero said:
I once bought some fresh olives and tried to cure them. Let's just say it didn't go as planned.
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My Spanish neighbour let me into her secret regarding processing olives. Cut a cross in the top of each olive (saves bruising them with a wooden mallet) and make up a brine - this is the foolproof recipe; Place a fresh egg into a clear demijohn or similar glass vessel, make a salt brine solution that floats the egg 5cm from the bottom of the vessel. Fill jars with the olives plus any flavourings you like (chillis, fennel, rosemary etc) add the brine and put the lid on. Start eating from about 6 weeks although they keep for years.
 














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raymondo

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Bakero said:
Currently, a large proportion of the fruit and veg eaten in the UK is grown in the vicinity of Europe's largest desert. So although it's possible that we'll see previously unsuitable crops growing further north, it may not be a necessity. The methods and systems used in Almeria may have to spread to other areas.

It ain't pretty, but it works.
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If there is sufficient water, yes
 


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Machiavelli

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raymondo said:
If there is sufficient water, yes
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Which prompts the question -- I suspect @Bakero will know the answer -- how do the Andalucian veg/salad farmers get their water? Desalination, according to my limited understanding, is very energy -- for which currently read carbon -- intensive.
We were there for summer two years ago -- near Mojacar -- and what struck us was that the salad growers weren't growing anything. Presumably their season runs from cNov-cApril
 




Bakero

Bakero

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Machiavelli said:
Which prompts the question -- I suspect @Bakero will know the answer -- how do the Andalucian veg/salad farmers get their water? Desalination, according to my limited understanding, is very energy -- for which currently read carbon -- intensive.
We were there for summer two years ago -- near Mojacar -- and what struck us was that the salad growers weren't growing anything. Presumably their season runs from cNov-cApril
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In Almeria a lot of the drinking water comes from desalination plants. That's why we've coped with the droughts better than the likes of Málaga.

The veg growers are reliant on groundwater alongside modern techniques
 
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beorhthelm

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Machiavelli said:
Which prompts the question -- I suspect @Bakero will know the answer -- how do the Andalucian veg/salad farmers get their water? Desalination, according to my limited understanding, is very energy -- for which currently read carbon -- intensive.
We were there for summer two years ago -- near Mojacar -- and what struck us was that the salad growers weren't growing anything. Presumably their season runs from cNov-cApril
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solar works very well in Spain
 


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raymondo

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Bakero said:
I'm Almeria a lot of the drinking water comes from desalination plants. That's why we've coped with the droughts better than the likes of Málaga.

The veg growers are reliant on groundwater alongside modern techniques
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When the veg growers grow under plastic/glass, do you know if their water use techniques are super efficient? Like: targeted watering, collecting evaporated moisture from inside the grow tunnels etc (sorry, I don't know what I'm on about really🤔...just interested in this intensive farming👍)
 


Jim in the West

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Colonel Mustard said:
We have an olive tree in our garden which produces a mass of tiny potential fruits but they never grow into actual olives. Do you prune your tree or do anything else to encourage them? Even 3 olives would be welcome.
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I do absolutely nothing - not sure if the climate is a factor (although I would have thought that Sussex gets more sunshine and warmth than Somerset). But 2022 was the first year we got actual olives, previously just the tiny potential fruit you are getting.
 




Bakero

Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
13,798
Almería
raymondo said:
When the veg growers grow under plastic/glass, do you know if their water use techniques are super efficient? Like: targeted watering, collecting evaporated moisture from inside the grow tunnels etc (sorry, I don't know what I'm on about really🤔...just interested in this intensive farming👍)
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I'm no expert but I believe so, yes. It's all based on efficient use of resources.
 


WATFORD zero

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I'm now starting to wonder if my three 8ft trees in a westdene garden, a few hundred hardwood cuttings and a couple of years of more global warming could see me as the major supplier of organic, local, small carbon footprint, of EVOO to the people's republic of Brighton and Hove ?

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Investors welcome :thumbsup:
 


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