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[Albion] PASSING ON A TICKET WARNING
- Thread starter paulfuzz
- Start date
This is all very draconian. People put up with it, just, when the team is doing well and tickets are harder to get. It’s far less easy to be so controlling on such things when things aren’t going so well and the ground doesn’t sell out, which will happen one day to all except the biggest clubs.
Hopefully, OP can provide (the club) with screenshots of the intended transfer, showing that it was to be sold at face value and therefore no profiteering/touting was taking place.
If so, I'd like to think the club would rescind the ban, on this occasion.
If so, I'd like to think the club would rescind the ban, on this occasion.
That is a really interesting point. So if you know the seat number of someone you don’t like …..
- Oct 17, 2008
- 10,843
Well I’m out then. What a terrible purchase this turned out to be.
So, to pick this apart...
1. It seems certain that your post on here that detailed your seat details was read and acted upon, as you not been sanctioned for selling your ticket but because "a match ticket owned and assigned to yo...has been listed for sale online"
2. The rest of the letter repeatedly mentions "Home supporter match ticket". Your ticket was not a "home supporter match ticket". Regardless...
3. The letter says:
"If more than one Home Supporter Match Ticket is issued to you, one Home Supporter Match Ticket must be retained by you, for personal use (subject to the provisions below) and the remainder may be transferred to your Guest(s) for his/her/their personal use only PROVIDED THAT such transfer takes place in consideration of no payment or benefit in excess of the face value of the Home Supporter Match Ticket, and such transfer does not take place in the course of any business or for the purpose of facilitating any third party's business."
From what you've said you did have more than one ticket (the one you bought and the guest ticket of your friend), you intend to use the guest one of your friend and you have sold the remainder for face value. You seem to have complied fully with those terms.4. Before starting the ticket purchase process for this game, the club detail, and link to, a single set of sale Ts&Cs. Those Ts&Cs are Wembley's own. The Wembley Ts&Cs also explicitly allow you to transfer a ticket so long as you do so for face value or below. You have complied with that.
Assuming all you have told us is correct, if this happened to me, and I believe I'd acted entirely in good faith, I would immediately file an appeal with the club and, if I was not satisfied with the outcome of that, I'd file a complaint with the Independent Football Ombudsman, via their form here.
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- Oct 17, 2008
- 10,843
This is why it would only possibly work if a club employee themselves “bought” the ticket. Otherwise how can they prove anything?!
I'm Spartacus?
- Oct 17, 2008
- 10,843
I’d argue it’s the best way. I think OP has been very harshly treated, if everything is as it seems, and I have no reason to think it isn’t.
Withdean11
Well-known member
Pathetic from the club. I'd understand if the OP was selling for a profit, but if they are refusing refunds they have to expect this.
Sad thing is, much worse than this is happening up and down the country unpunished. I'd bet a very large number of MUFC fans on Sunday have paid far more than face value for their ticket.
Sad thing is, much worse than this is happening up and down the country unpunished. I'd bet a very large number of MUFC fans on Sunday have paid far more than face value for their ticket.
schmunk
"Members"
I'd like to take this opportunity to declare that I am every member of the Conservative Party, I have loads of Wembley tickets for sale and I think that Paul Barber is a ****.
I will take my lifetime ban(s) from the Amex with good grace and a mild xenophobia.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
@Bozza does make a very convincing case that the OP wouldn't get without having discussed this. So yes, I think I'll edit another of my posts...
Offence is ‘listing for sale’, doesn’t have to be actually bought…..? So simply putting up the exact details was enough
- Oct 17, 2008
- 10,843
If I were OP I’d stick that in an email to Paul Barber OBE, along with a link to this thread.
Nice work.
Good luck to the OP.
I fully support the club trying to clamp down on touting etc, but this seems like either a) no rules have been broken or b) if they have, it's an innocent mistake with no harm caused and no profit made, so I hope the club can reverse their decision (whether their decision had grounds or not).
- Oct 17, 2008
- 10,843
This is up for debate, see Bozza’s post.
Absolutely that.
I cannot abide touting for profit and have had countless occasions where I have fallen foul, simply because it was the only way to see (insert event here) something.
This does appear to not fall into that category (which obviously assumes all the facts are as stated).
Hopefully OP will keep us updated as to their appeal.
This scenario is ridiculous and totally unreasonable of the club.I've had the same problem today. I was pretty sure I could go but I'm going through an unexpected rough period with my illness.
I actually called the club to be told that it's not possible ... and it did surprise me. After all STH can buy for guests and the tickets are issued in the STH name so what difference? I did mention this and was told that spot checks could be carried out and if the ticket wasn't issued in the STH guest window then it will be spotted.
Frankly I don't believe that but that's the position being adopted at least publicly.
I wanted to give my tickets to daughter and b/f but I'm 65+ and they are adult so I'm buggered
That appears to be the case - which is crazy, if true.