It's just not his game though. Whatever the hell a 'ground duel' is. I'm not sure he can cut it in a 2 in midfield unless the other one is a monster. His game is on the ball, where he looks good and his passing attempts are mostly progressive and positive. Trying get the ball forward. He's going to be a useful player but only in specific circumstances. I don't think one on one wrestling for the ball with Phillip Billings is particularly it.
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[Albion] Billy Gilmour
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Average at best in my opinion.
Thought that Billy had a nice tidy game.
Must be really tough to adapt to EPL midfield with so little game time.
Would be better alongside Alex and Or Moises.
One thing I really liked was the way he was telling other players where to pass the ball.
Must be really tough to adapt to EPL midfield with so little game time.
Would be better alongside Alex and Or Moises.
One thing I really liked was the way he was telling other players where to pass the ball.
martin tyler
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- Jan 25, 2013
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I thought he did ok bearing in mind none of the first choice 3 were there to guide him at all and he is basically 5th choice behind Gross. Passing is decent moves the ball well but isn’t a player to break up attacks. Not a bad player to have in the squad at all.
Justice
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I was watching on Sparks yesterday when subbed he really didn’t look happy was ranting to Welbeck when back on the bench who didn’t look at all interested and ignored him 
This. Lots of endeavour and work rate, but he slowed the game down and passed to them creating danger. RDZ couldn’t hide his frustration.
severnside gull
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Would benefit from playing centrally in a 3 if not hats a format we adopt on occasion
Papa Lazarou
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I see Billy as Lallana's understudy for the more advanced role. He's less suited to the deeper pivot role where its about quick accurate passes to draw the press.
Groß seemed to be in more open positions first half an hour and Gilmour didn't see that much of the ball. He improved as the game went on and was at his best in the period before he was subbed. Plenty of positive aspects, and he's only young and can only get better.
Plus, anyone will look less capable than a pairing of Mac Allister and Caicedo...
Groß seemed to be in more open positions first half an hour and Gilmour didn't see that much of the ball. He improved as the game went on and was at his best in the period before he was subbed. Plenty of positive aspects, and he's only young and can only get better.
Plus, anyone will look less capable than a pairing of Mac Allister and Caicedo...
scooter1
How soon is now?
I thought Gilmour was ok yesterday, but struggled in a 2 man midfield where he might normally get some support from a number 10(or play as the 10). Whereas, us going 4-4-2 yesterday left our centre mids a little exposed
Poyningsgull
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Gross AWOL.? You having a laugh.! He had a great game.
Johnny RoastBeef
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According to Pat Nevin, who works for Chelsea TV, so he saw a lot of Billy previously.
Talking about a game for Scotland v Denmark,
Nevin explained (BBC): “Billy plays in the Jorginho position – he sits in front of the defence and he controls it. It is like clockwork the way he passes it and moves it about. In the first half, the team wasn’t playing particularly well at all, and he wasn’t playing in the position that suits him.
“Breaking forward from midfield is not Billy’s game. Billy’s game is controlling from a deeper area. Yes, he will break forward sometimes, but when he dropped back in that area we got more control of the game.”
I think he will come good, possibly next season when he is likely to fill a vacancy in centre midfield and play more regularly.
Talking about a game for Scotland v Denmark,
Nevin explained (BBC): “Billy plays in the Jorginho position – he sits in front of the defence and he controls it. It is like clockwork the way he passes it and moves it about. In the first half, the team wasn’t playing particularly well at all, and he wasn’t playing in the position that suits him.
“Breaking forward from midfield is not Billy’s game. Billy’s game is controlling from a deeper area. Yes, he will break forward sometimes, but when he dropped back in that area we got more control of the game.”
I think he will come good, possibly next season when he is likely to fill a vacancy in centre midfield and play more regularly.
I think I said it in the match thread but I thought that 4-4-2 was a bit of a mistake. It didn’t work against Liverpool with Mac and Gross in the middle, they got overrun till RDZ changed it, so I don’t know why he thought it would work with Gilmour and Gross.
BRIGHT ON Q
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Let's face it he was chucked in at the deep end yesterday with all our other 3 out, thought he did well, always offering for the ball. Definitely a player in there.
Thought he was OK, needs a physical presence alongside him though. In Football Manager terms, I'd put his most-suited position as the 'deep lying playmaker' behind two other centre mids.
Originunknown
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Haven't seen what he's really capable of still I feel but some very disappointing performances, and I've been at every game he's had minutes.
Slightly better yesterday but wasn't helped partnering Gross in midfield and playing 2 up top, which was surprising. Another midfielder would have taken the pressure off and perhaps balanced us, but absolutely understandable not starting Moises.
Slightly better yesterday but wasn't helped partnering Gross in midfield and playing 2 up top, which was surprising. Another midfielder would have taken the pressure off and perhaps balanced us, but absolutely understandable not starting Moises.
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Not in the first half he didn’t he was barely in the game. Much improved when the subs were made.
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I fear by next season, he will be on loan to a Club that actually wants to use him which would be his best bet imo.
He has never really impressed me tbh and there’s something about him that just doesn’t gel - he has now failed to impress 3 PL clubs in a row - wonder how long we are supposed to wait for him to ‘develop’? I don’t think sitting on a bench waiting for our star players to transfer is a good career strategy for Gilmour - Brighton are at a stage that whatever MFs we loose in the summer, knowing TB/PB their replacements will be at least as good as them if not better (though that’s hard to believe isn’t it?!) which Gilmour is not at the moment. Also, Gilmour is more of a deep playing C/DMF so unlikely to be seen as a replacement anyway for Mackie who will likely transfer in the summer (and possibly be replaced by Facu) and he’s no where near filling Caicedo‘s boots.
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Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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I thought he did OK. If Undav had tucked away one of his 3 misses then with a lead it would have given Billy more space to pass into.
Exactly. Positionally, he is quite poor and didn’t put himself in a position to regain possession once lost, it also enabled Plucky to play around him several times. Gross didn’t have a great game either IMO, but some of that was due to him covering BG.