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[Albion] Palace Fans Biggest Fear
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Horses Arse
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Dangerous songs clearly.....
I thought he got run over by a vehicle after lots of hand bag antics by fans on both sides? You know, the sort of behaviour that your blackshirts are so fond of?
Horses Arse
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Not many Palace fans I have spoken to are willing to pay to watch a team this year who they believe won’t be competing for much, regardless of whether they are playing attractive and exciting football or not.
www.newsshopper.co.uk
Why is Selhurst half empty when Crystal Palace are playing so well?
CRYSTAL Palace columnist SAM ROSS is puzzled why the entertaining fare on offer at Selhurst Park this year isn’t attracting higher attendances.
www.newsshopper.co.uk
nicko31
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Cue the now infamous Groupon VouchersNot many Palace fans I have spoken to are willing to pay to watch a team this year who they believe won’t be competing for much, regardless of whether they are playing attractive and exciting football or not.
Why is Selhurst half empty when Crystal Palace are playing so well?
CRYSTAL Palace columnist SAM ROSS is puzzled why the entertaining fare on offer at Selhurst Park this year isn’t attracting higher attendances.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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It's kind of sweet that Palace cling desperately to the delusional view that our fan base is plastic and there's is some kind of gritty, real, admirable and special fan base.
They went from 17,000 to 24,000 when they got promoted. That's an increase of about 40% Same stadium. Whatever could explain that increase?
Maybe the 17,000 in the championship winning season was an outlier and they averaged closer to 24,000 in their other seasons in the championship? Nope they averaged 15,000 the year before, then in descending chronological order they got:
15,000 (champ)
14000 (champ)
15000 (champ)
16000 (champ)
17,000 (champ)
19,000 (champ)
24,000 (prem!)
17,000 (champ)
So it seems that gaining fans by a rate of 40% when you're in the prem and losing them in the championship is the Palace definition of real fans?
Or maybe it's being in thrall to a bunch of virgins who watch a lot of youtube videos of how other countries fans support their teams and thought it would be jolly fun to copy them. But what a terrifying atmosphere they create with their megaphones and drums and finger painted bed sheets.
Or maybe it's how hard they all fought to stop their club from going into administration twice.
If only we could be more like them then we could be real, salt of the earth, proper football fans.
They went from 17,000 to 24,000 when they got promoted. That's an increase of about 40% Same stadium. Whatever could explain that increase?
Maybe the 17,000 in the championship winning season was an outlier and they averaged closer to 24,000 in their other seasons in the championship? Nope they averaged 15,000 the year before, then in descending chronological order they got:
15,000 (champ)
14000 (champ)
15000 (champ)
16000 (champ)
17,000 (champ)
19,000 (champ)
24,000 (prem!)
17,000 (champ)
So it seems that gaining fans by a rate of 40% when you're in the prem and losing them in the championship is the Palace definition of real fans?
Or maybe it's being in thrall to a bunch of virgins who watch a lot of youtube videos of how other countries fans support their teams and thought it would be jolly fun to copy them. But what a terrifying atmosphere they create with their megaphones and drums and finger painted bed sheets.
Or maybe it's how hard they all fought to stop their club from going into administration twice.
If only we could be more like them then we could be real, salt of the earth, proper football fans.
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Stato
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- Dec 21, 2011
- 6,615
All Cantona songs? You'll be contacting the club about this then.
Eric Cantona: Crystal Palace fans slammed for chant about Man Utd icon
'WTF is this?!' - Crystal Palace fans' 'embarrassing' chant about Eric Cantona is being mocked by football supporters online.
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Once again your generally reasonable local fanbase is let down by these terrible children. If they were at most clubs including our own, they would have been banned, as promised, straight after they hospitalised your steward. Instead they still get special treatment because the club is scared that without the 'atmosphere' they provide, the ground would be quiet. You should all be lobbying the club to say that you managed perfectly well before they leeched onto your club. Other clubs seem to be able to create an atmosphere without the need for a bunch of 'look-at-mes' with drums, megaphones, flares and incomprehensible banner displays. You would be more of a football club and less of a laughing stock without them.
Horses Arse
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What's happened to EagleDan? Hope no one has sung something at him
Horses Arse
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Wow, they're even more embarrassing than I thought. All I could hear on the telly was the Man Utd fans though - have they moved the microphones I wonder? They used to love putting them in front of the uniformed cretins.All Cantona songs? You'll be contacting the club about this then.
Eric Cantona: Crystal Palace fans slammed for chant about Man Utd icon
'WTF is this?!' - Crystal Palace fans' 'embarrassing' chant about Eric Cantona is being mocked by football supporters online.
Once again your generally reasonable local fanbase is let down by these terrible children. If they were at most clubs including our own, they would have been banned, as promised, straight after they hospitalised your steward. Instead they still get special treatment because the club is scared that without the 'atmosphere' they provide, the ground would be quiet. You should all be lobbying the club to say that you managed perfectly well before they leeched onto your club. Other clubs seem to be able to create an atmosphere without the need for a bunch of 'look-at-mes' with drums, megaphones, flares and incomprehensible banner displays. You would be more of a football club and less of a laughing stock without them.
Some truths, some BS (I appreciate you know that, but some of it can't be left un-addressed:
Basically all of that is wrong. Bankrolled - less than most. Yes they got to keep Zaha, but as is clear, he alone cannot provide entertaining football when so many of his teammates are crap. And fluked into this league? Blimey. I guess he didn't watch Palace before they got to the PL. They made the playoffs once and rode their luck in the lottery. Whereas we got to the playoffs a few times, got unlucky to miss autos and then unlucky with injuries and referee decisions against Massive, and then got auto promotion with games to spare.
Bless him.
More BS. Our stadium was more full in the Championship than theirs. They only turned up when they got to the PL.
They've got no idea. They deserve success because what? Because they've screwed over everyone else by going into administration twice? Whereas we watched our club lose our ground and go to the bottom of the 4th.
And he's the poster in the least denial.
- May 8, 2018
- 9,373
There are a number of factors and I will try to explain:
When we first went to the Withdean, the capacity was lower than when we left.
The away end often didn't sell out (I'm amazed anyone came, it was awful) which shows in the attendance figures.
When there were tickets left, they couldn't be bought on the day of the game (I think that improved improved towards the end, but there was no Pay on the Gate).
The published attendance was those who attended, rather than tickets sold. That's different to how Palace reported their attendances, as tickets sold (inc STs) regardless of whether people turned up.
It was pretty much sold out in the home end, despite being the worst possible place to watch football.
I had a season ticket for the Withdean for a few of the years, and went to some games in the other years, but I missed a fair bit. Overall I probably went to between a half and a third of the games. I know others who went to the Goldstone a lot, but barely went to the Withdean. But when we finally got our own ground again, those who would sometimes go got season tickets, so with the same people going to more games, we have higher attendances.
We have some football fans who have moved to the area, so they supported another team before coming, which is true of most clubs. But then I know of Brighton fans who go to the local team where they live up north (not everyone has the time and money to travel the country every weekend).
When we actually had our own ground again, we filled it, and I think in the Championship we had more fans in our ground despite yours having a higher capacity.
I have no doubt that Palace fans will continue to pretend our support is plastic, but they'll always be wrong.
The fact that a fan died going to watch the football is an awful tragedy. If a Brighton fan refers to the Cantona incident, they are not joking about the death of one of your fans (unless they happen to be an absolute ****ing moron).
The Fifth Column
Retired ex-cop
Ah the old Withdean attendances v Amex plastics argument, I do love this one. In 2012 when we moved to the Amex our average attendances jumped by around 13000, this was our first season in the Championship having just won the L1 title. Palace averaged a paltry 15000 that same season in the Championship and they hated it that we were filling our stadium, absolutely hated it. Plastic fans are generally accepted in football as those that start coming when your team enters the Premier League, I can't say I've heard any other club being accused of gaining plastics when they moved from L1 to the Championship because its really not a 'thing'. Clubs always gain extra bums on seats on getting promoted same as they lose them when they get relegated, Palace are no different - they gained an extra 7000 on average in 2014, their first season back in the PL. I recall many Palace fans coming on NSC at the time and bleating about 2nd season syndrome and that attendances would fall, they didn't and neither did 3rd, 4th or 5th season syndrome because our attendances kept rising unlike Palace's whose so-called 'attendances' stagnated around the 24-25000 mark. They were promoted into the PL and still their attendances remained the same whilst in the division below ours kept on rising much to their collective disgust. I wonder why Palaces attendances didnt go up? Maybe because like Withdean it had a limited capacity - who would have though that eh?
When we finally did get into the PL our attendances rose very little, around 2000 and since then we have averaged over 30000 in the last 4 seasons, hardly full of plastics when you consider we were filling the Amex from day 1 and whilst spending 6 seasons in the Championship. None of this matters to Palace fans though, they keep spouting the same falsehoods and myths because it hurts them so much that we have overtaken them in every single department and metric possible, its complete and the only opportunities they now have are to try and beat us twice a season for bragging rights because everything about that shitty pus weeping little club is inferior to ours. So the Withdean attendance argument is proven to be a crock of shit, I mean if Palace fans really believe it then lets go back to the mid 1980s when they too were averaging around 6-7000 and that dump they call a stadium, by their own argument we have to surmise that all the extra fans they have gained since are plastics?
Palace are and will now be forever in our shadow, the end.
When we finally did get into the PL our attendances rose very little, around 2000 and since then we have averaged over 30000 in the last 4 seasons, hardly full of plastics when you consider we were filling the Amex from day 1 and whilst spending 6 seasons in the Championship. None of this matters to Palace fans though, they keep spouting the same falsehoods and myths because it hurts them so much that we have overtaken them in every single department and metric possible, its complete and the only opportunities they now have are to try and beat us twice a season for bragging rights because everything about that shitty pus weeping little club is inferior to ours. So the Withdean attendance argument is proven to be a crock of shit, I mean if Palace fans really believe it then lets go back to the mid 1980s when they too were averaging around 6-7000 and that dump they call a stadium, by their own argument we have to surmise that all the extra fans they have gained since are plastics?
Palace are and will now be forever in our shadow, the end.
They might need to consider some Vitalstatistix.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
They're utterly shameless, and have a completely unshakeable belief in their own bullshit.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
- 29,297
So, I think there’s enough posts with evidence now to prove once and for all on attendances that the majority of BHA aren’t ‘plastics’ yet given the sharp rise in attendances at the 2010 version of Selhurst Park, they have a lot more ‘plastics’. We’ve also debunked the ‘sugar daddy’ debt rubbish comments, again with facts. Anything more to be proven wrong they come out with or are we just going to agree they beat us on.. well… nothing 
Plastic wannabes my bottom!
Zaha has all the best haircuts?So, I think there’s enough posts with evidence now to prove once and for all on attendances that the majority of BHA aren’t ‘plastics’ yet given the sharp rise in attendances at the 2010 version of Selhurst Park, they have a lot more ‘plastics’. We’ve also debunked the ‘sugar daddy’ debt rubbish comments, again with facts. Anything more to be proven wrong they come out with or are we just going to agree they beat us on.. well… nothing
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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Still , fair play to Dan for actually showing his face around here (briefly) the rest of them seem to have gone to ground lately.
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
You can understand their frustration, watching us being brilliant, growing year on year, having a plan whilst they flail about, directionless.
I don’t worry about the rivalry too much these days, I simply (and smugly) look on in amusement.
I don’t worry about the rivalry too much these days, I simply (and smugly) look on in amusement.