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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
24,915
Worthing
The UK Government is not - and never was - interested in controlling immigration. As an EU member the UK failed to take action it could have to reduce immigration. Brexit has got rid of EU citizens that were staffing our hospitals and paying tax, but immigration continues to grow

A 25k gap in needed nurses now yet highest ever joining rates ???
 
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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
24,915
Worthing
A single market is a long time away…. I can’t see it being discussed seriously in the next Labour manifesto …. They’ll need at least one more term after to get really chatty on it.
 




Blue3

Well-known member
Jan 27, 2014
5,592
Lancing
The gammony Brexiteers voices are getting quieter and quieter as they realise not only were they conned but that they are largely to blame for the mess the U.K. is currently in.

They don’t understand the full implications of what they’ve done and probably never will. Too thick. But they know they’ve dropped a bollock. And now they can’t afford to eat.

We’ll be back in the single market within 5 years.
I do hope that’s the case Clamp free movement is a must we are apparently 4,000 GP’s short owing to the fact they left to return home after Brexit, today I tried to order a specific dehumidifier but it’s not in stock any where in the UK.
My nephew ordered a guitar part from Europe a couple of weeks ago when it arrived it included £70 export/import duty
 


Blue3

Well-known member
Jan 27, 2014
5,592
Lancing
Unfortunately there is a large swathe of 'middle England' who were never bothered about the EU, not in favour of leaving, never persuaded by all the (false) promises, who voted remain, and yet are now in the 'the nation decided and now we must move on' camp.

A strange, hesitant, trusting mass of fools, who accept that the referendum was fair and binding and, like death, something that cannot be undone.

Only when they become receptive to the idea that we must create a 'single market type trade deal with the EU' will there be any movement over Brexit. Such a deal is absolutely anathema to the ERG, and any government that pursues it will be accused of 'betraying the will of the people'.

One can understand why Starmer is keeping his powder dry. He is not yet PM and this is not yet his fight. A couple more years of no benefits and continued problems may start to shift the landscape a bit. But all the while that reasonably sensible people are continuing to blame our financial ills on Covid and the war with Ukraine, nothing will change, and any political party that suggests we should probably Do Something will be ridiculed.
It really has impacted massively on my cousin he has a very successful business in Malta he lived in the UK but also has a holiday home in Switzerland, his two children one lives and works in Paris while the second is attending university in Germany.
Before Brexit my cousin would fly out from the uk Monday returning most weekends, in the uk was a subsidiary of the Maltese company that his wife managed, they found after Brexit this became unmanageable so decided to sell up the uk operation and home they moved permanently to Switzerland to continue commuting to Malta, While his daughter has become a French citizen, only his son I understand intends returning to the UK upon completion of his studies in Munich.
Now I know this quite an unusual family but the effects of Brexit has split forced them to closed a uk business and relocated to different countrie, moving the tax out of the uk, the uk business didn’t employ many but a few have lost a job no one has come out of this well
 
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WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,975
More self imposed economic sanctions.

Have we started checking any imports at Dover yet or is Brexit still only in one direction? I've lost track
No, no we haven't.

If you remember JRM went from 'taking back control' to 'an act of self harm' without even pausing for breath :dunce:



And of course implementing the checks to 'take back control' would mean even higher prices on imported food, the corresponding increase in inflation, and more empty shelves in the supermarkets so we have that to look forward to next year now. Brexit, the gift that never stops taking :facepalm:
 
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Wokeworrier

Active member
Aug 7, 2021
334
West sussex/travelling
Have we reached the point we're allowed to say Brexit is a disaster, or is it still the fault of Covid / Putin's War?


More like, Covid and Putin's war have been a godsend for many radicalised anti-Brexit obsessives?



 






Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,386
More like, Covid and Putin's war have been a godsend for many radicalised anti-Brexit obsessives?



Keep believing!
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
50,622
Faversham
Let's not talk this great country down.

Under Jeremy Corbyn....

I see the 'vote remain' vote has now crossed the 70% rubicon.

Fancy that. ???
 






nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,656
Gods country fortnightly

@steveparker8065

1 day ago
Brexit has given us all the same benefits as the Blitz without the need to bother a foreign nation. Rations, economic collapse and the reduction of infrastructure, what more could we ask for?


The Tory councillor at 1min 19 is one sharp cookie
 


Eric the meek

Fiveways Wilf
NSC Patron
Aug 24, 2020
5,406
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You won't find any objectivity in that article. Have you read their mission statement? Christ.

My suspicions were raised when I read the Executive Summary. It had a clear, unswerving agenda and had selected only the data that the authors thought support that agenda. That Executive Summary is riddled with erroneous conclusions - from their own data. For instance, it cites similar economic data in - some - EU countries, and presents this as evidence that Brexit has not influenced the similar UK data. Non sequitur. That conclusion does not follow. The fact that the authors don't realise this, is made all the more amusing by the very first line of the mission statement:

'BriefingsforBritain (originally BriefingsforBrexit) was founded in response to a widespread media view that all sensible and informed people opposed Brexit.'
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,656
Gods country fortnightly
Sovrintee in action


EU sets out plans to shift derivatives clearing from London to Frankfurt​

 




Pretty Plnk Fairy

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 30, 2008
786
No, no we haven't.

If you remember JRM went from 'taking back control' to 'an act of self harm' without even pausing for breath :dunce:



And of course implementing the checks to 'take back control' would mean even higher prices on imported food, the corresponding increase in inflation, and more empty shelves in the supermarkets so we have that to look forward to next year now. Brexit, the gift that never stops taking :facepalm:

Speech for yourself snowflayke. Every times i see JrM on the tv i commit an act of self harm unless my mum is in the room

r3gards

DF
 




rogersix

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2014
7,905
More like, Covid and Putin's war have been a godsend for many radicalised anti-Brexit obsessives?



blimey! the tides coming in, wokey! if you keep swimming against it, you'll end up all at sea!

when we are back in the customs union and single market, will you still post using this account?
 


Guinness Boy

Tofu eating wokerati
Helpful Moderator
NSC Patron
Jul 23, 2003
34,357
Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
blimey! the tides coming in, wokey! if you keep swimming against it, you'll end up all at sea!

when we are back in the customs union and single market, will you still post using this account?
Or, to use another sea based analogy, when the tide goes out you can see who's been swimming naked. I reckon there's a pair of shorts on the beach with a " JC Football Genius" name label in the back, stitched in by mum.
 




rogersix

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2014
7,905
Or, to use another sea based analogy, when the tide goes out you can see who's been swimming naked. I reckon there's a pair of shorts on the beach with a " JC Football Genius" name label in the back, stitched in by mum.
bad image for a sunday morning!

jcfg was the really angry persona, wasn't he? what did ever happen to him, and also chicken run?
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,656
Gods country fortnightly
bad image for a sunday morning!

jcfg was the really angry persona, wasn't he? what did ever happen to him, and also chicken run?
Add Two Professors remade into Bakerlite and Ppf to the Brexit graveyard. Sooner or later they just implode on themselves
 


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