[Brighton] Graham Potter

[indy3050]

By winning it.

Ha. You’ve proved you know **** all. Well done.

 

[vagabond]

See my above post. He's achieved far more than Potter has (for now).

FWIW I wouldn't want Howe as our manager but you can't deny his record.

I’m not denying Howe’s record. I’m not saying he’s bad. But I don’t get the obsession with him either. Has he achieved far more? You’re being slightly disingenuous by not mentioning GP’s climb through the ranks in Sweden to reaching the Europa league. A different path to Eddie, but shouldn’t be overlooked.

Anyway, you didn’t answer the question. Howe was relegated last season and had to walk away from his club. Whereas GP kept his club up with a club record point total.

That’s why I find it slightly bizarre to want to replace him with the guy who finished below him and was relegated. Surely you can see that.

 

[Pint of Ale and a Burger]

He is definitely destined for big things.
I see him as taking us up the table and getting us into Europe for sure.
Then maybe man city and England.
But my only worry is if covid hits the finances so hard we have to sell too many of our best players and potter then feels he can't get us to where both us and him want to be.
If that happens then he maybe more tempted by a spurs type job.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

So let’s hear it then...

Replace with who?

Don’t skip the question just answer it straight

Slaven Bilić would be my ideal fit. Like a sane version of Poyet. Proper winner. Was available at round about the time we could have got him in to our betterment also. Oh well

 

[Easy 10]

Rightly or wrongly, Potter will never have the track record to go from BHA and get a job at one of the 'big clubs' in the PL. He doesn't have the profile or charisma, and he's not foreign. Thems the facts. Top PL jobs simply do not go to guys like GP.

As for England - I struggle to fathom how he even comes into some peoples equation with that one. We've all seen that his methods take a long, long time to sink in with a squad of players, and thats when he's on the training ground with them almost every day of the week. Quite how that would transfer to managing the England squad for 2-3 games every few months I do not have an earthly. PLUS he would be bossing a whole bunch of seasoned internationals who spend their club careers working with the likes of Klopp, Mourinho, Pep, Tuchel, Ancelotti...managers steeped in trophies and success domestically and in Europe, so the element of "who the f*ck are you?" would be clanging round the dressing room like a brass pair of bollocks on a bucking bronco.

This isn't to say I don't rate GP. I do, but his methods require a lot of patience and a fair amount of faith, along with the lowered expectations that come with that. And at BHA he is (rightly ) afforded that. But in a high profile job, he simply would not be afforded that level of leaway, because he would have to hit the ground running with results.

And that ain't how it works with him.

 

[indy3050]

Slaven Bilić would be my ideal fit. Like a sane version of Poyet. Proper winner. Was available at round about the time we could have got him in to our betterment also. Oh well

Repetitive failure

Achieved absolutely nothing

Take a break man

 

[indy3050]

Rightly or wrongly, Potter will never have the track record to go from BHA and get a job at one of the 'big clubs' in the PL. He doesn't have the profile or charisma, and he's not foreign. Thems the facts. Top PL jobs simply do not go to guys like GP.

As for England - I struggle to fathom how he even comes into some peoples equation with that one. We've all seen that his methods take a long, long time to sink in with a squad of players, and thats when he's on the training ground with them almost every day of the week. Quite how that would transfer to managing the England squad for 2-3 games every few months I do not have an earthly. PLUS he would be bossing a whole bunch of seasoned internationals who spend their club careers working with the likes of Klopp, Mourinho, Pep, Tuchel, Ancelotti...managers steeped in trophies and success domestically and in Europe, so the element of "who the f*ck are you?" would be clanging round the dressing room like a brass pair of bollocks on a bucking bronco.

This isn't to say I don't rate GP. I do, but his methods require a lot of patience and a fair amount of faith, along with the lowered expectations that come with that. In a high profile job, he simply would not be afforded that level of leaway, because he would have to hit the ground running with results.

And that ain't how it works with him.

Very good post, although I meant he would ONE day, not in the near future. We shall see!

Goodnight all

 

[Easy 10]

He is definitely destined for big things.
I see him as taking us up the table and getting us into Europe for sure.
Then maybe man city and England.
But my only worry is if covid hits the finances so hard we have to sell too many of our best players and potter then feels he can't get us to where both us and him want to be.
If that happens then he maybe more tempted by a spurs type job.

Bonkers.

Too much ale, not enough burger

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Repetitive failure

Achieved absolutely nothing

Take a break man

I could have said any manager back there and you'd still have found them wanting vs the Cult Of Potter.

Read his CV man, there's absolutely nothing there

 

[vagabond]

As for England - I struggle to fathom how he even comes into some peoples equation with that one. We've all seen that his methods take a long, long time to sink in with a squad of players, and thats when he's on the training ground with them almost every day of the week. Quite how that would transfer to managing the England squad for 2-3 games every few months I do not have an earthly. PLUS he would be bossing a whole bunch of seasoned internationals who spend their club careers working with the likes of Klopp, Mourinho, Pep, Tuchel, Ancelotti...managers steeped in trophies and success domestically and in Europe, so the element of "who the f*ck are you?" would be clanging round the dressing room like a brass pair of bollocks on a bucking bronco.

Ahem. Like Gareth “relegated Middlesbrough” Southgate? How does he stack up against those elite managers you reeled of?

(I hope you’re right though).

 

[Bry Nylon]

Bonkers.

Too much ale, not enough burger

 

[vagabond]

Slaven Bilić would be my ideal fit. Like a sane version of Poyet. Proper winner. Was available at round about the time we could have got him in to our betterment also. Oh well

I actually like Slaven as well. Think it was a ludicrous mistake for Brom to sack him.

But if he didn’t have Brighton mid table, you’d want him sacked too?

 

[Bry Nylon]

PLUS he would be bossing a whole bunch of seasoned internationals who spend their club careers working with the likes of Klopp, Mourinho, Pep, Tuchel, Ancelotti...managers steeped in trophies and success domestically and in Europe, so the element of "who the f*ck are you?" would be clanging round the dressing room like a brass pair of bollocks on a bucking bronco.

What a sensational piece of football writing.

Should Henry Winter ever decide to move on, I reckon The Sunday Times could do a lot worse...

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I actually like Slaven as well. Think it was a ludicrous mistake for Brom to sack him.

But if he didn’t have Brighton mid table, you’d want him sacked too?

No, no I wouldn't

 

[wellquickwoody]

Almost certainly. I was thinking about this earlier.

My prediction, reluctantly, is that it will be Spurs.

Mourinho sacked after a very poor season. Spurs want to go for something completely different - a young, promising, English and attack minded manager that doesn't command a massive contract.

The question would be - would GP abandon his project here, which comes with the complete backing of the board and fans, in order to risk his reputation at the likes of Spurs?

The answer to that is, yes, he probably would.

Late to this party, but I have to disagree. Spuds fans are starved of success, they want instant results not a long term project.

As for GP, why risk your reputation on an instant gamble, when you can grow your vision with unwavering backing from a supportive chairman?

 

[indy3050]

I could have said any manager back there and you'd still have found them wanting vs the Cult Of Potter.

Read his CV man, there's absolutely nothing there

No, you could have given me a realistic alternative to Potter to manage our club moving forward but all you had was a manager who’s been fired twice for being shit in the top division

 

[Easy 10]

Ahem. Like Gareth “relegated Middlesbrough” Southgate? How does he stack up against those elite managers you reeled of?

(I hope you’re right though).

He'd spent his entire career playing in the PL, then played for England,and managed the U21s. What has GP got on his CV compared with that ?

 

[vagabond]

No, no I wouldn't

Ok. So you don’t rate or like GP. That’s fair enough. But he’s here. Where does he need to finish in the league for you to give him a thumbs up?

Baring in mind you’re ok with Bilic hypothetically finishing bottom half.. [emoji6]

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

Would be absolutely gobsmacked if any chairman would want to take a punt on a man who took Swansea to 10th and has barely improved our points total, on the premise of better football.

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[indy3050]

He'd spent his entire career playing in the PL, then played for England,and managed the U21s. What has GP got on his CV compared with that ?

Stop being good at this