An olive branch to the Potter outs tonight

[Neville's Breakfast]

I’m only responding like that to people who are abusive buddy, give it back to them in kind. Don’t worry, I’ll have a philosophical beer with most of you anytime.

How about a curry night, hun ?
xx

 

[andy1980]

Sanchez has been a good and brave call, much as I love Maty to bits. It builds for the future bigtime. Tho IMHO it's got as much to do with abandoning the basics of 'Potterball', whatever that thing may or may not be. But certainly calling a halt on endless tinkering with the side and needless dicking around at the back seems to have had a beneficial effect. Was there maybe a clear-the-air session? Or did maybe somebody have a word? And, who knows, maybe ditching that voluntarily-reducing-the-team-to-ten-men-at-corners thing might produce a similar boost?

I don't know the stats but I would imagine most of our wins recently has come when we have less possession than the other team. If that is the case and Potterball has been adapted then I believe that jusst adds to Graham Potters pluses.

 

[vagabond]

Very good post.

As a perceived outer to a degree I must put my hands up and say I got it wrong, but at the time it was what I believed and I would go as far as to say, at one point with the level of performances and results and arguably with the best squad the club had ever assembled the question could have been asked is GP one of the worst managers we've ever had?

Clearly that's not the case, but emotions were running high, and we all love the club and following the Albion is at times extremely passionate.

[emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122] well said

 

[Hugo Rune]

Very good post.

As a perceived outer to a degree I must put my hands up and say I got it wrong, but at the time it was what I believed

Takes real backbone and maturity to admit that. Good for you.

and I would go as far as to say, at one point with the level of performances and results and arguably with the best squad the club had ever assembled the question could have been asked is GP one of the worst managers we've ever had?

However, asking that question about GP is bonkers, it's as if you're only basing that on home results where we lose to top six sides and draw with bottom half clubs having not watched any of our football this season or realising that during this pandemic, winning away is a lot easier. When you say 'level of performance' you mean 'level of finishing and individual defensive errors'?

Clearly that's not the case, but emotions were running high, and we all love the club and following the Albion is at times extremely passionate.

No one should ever question your love for the club.

We appear to have turned the corner, partly due to I think a more settled starting line up, so GP has changed his way of thinking, and at times the rub of the green.

Injuries have played their part. We have turned the corner because we don't concede anymore. Dunk & Webster have played every game (except one), i suggest you look to the brave decision to blood Sanchez and drop your man Ryan rather than lack of squad rotation (which was necessary over the busy Xmas period).

What I do object to is the vitriol and venom expressed by some on the 'in' faction on social media in the last 12 hours, at the moment I seem to be constantly trolled by an individual on FB who claims his name is Kee Wah Cheunggipswicz,(quite a common Sussex name) at the lowest point I questioned on here where some fans deluded, but never mentioned bedwetting or any other form of abuse, we all support the Albion we all want what's best for the club, hence why the timing of your post was extremely apt.

If you posted a question as absurd as Potter potentially being our worst manager ever, you're highly likely to be trolled as that's the level of bizarre untruths that someone like Donald Trump would come up with. It's like you can't recognise the potential of youth or understand superb build up play.

 

[vagabond]

How about a curry night, hun ?
xx

That works!

 

[Badger Boy]

Pompous crowing disguised as an olive branch to massage your ego. You have an annoying and needy desire to dominate the conversation and it shows in every post you make.

We all support the same team. That team, up until Sunday, were the only team in the country not to have won a home game this season and, up to four league matches ago were in dire relegation trouble. It really is little wonder people were questioning him. Yes, we beat Liverpool away. We also failed to beat 10 man Sheffield United at home.

Nevertheless, it's been a great turnaround and I'm absolutely happy to admit I am back in the "in" camp (and was after Spurs, check the poll) because all I've ever asked is that the "all passing, no scoring performance art project" as The Guardian called it, started to produce some actual results. And we have.

That, however, is based on defensive solidness and not the Brazil 1970 performances. In beating Leeds, Liverpool and Spurs and drawing with Fulham we have scored three goals. We just haven't conceded any. Funnily enough Chris Hughton was always about the clean sheet first.

Credit to Potter, as I said on the match thread last night we park the bus very stylishly and we now have the pace on the break that CH was never given (or never wanted). The defence have been magnificent (big tick for Potter), Sanchez coming in has really helped (another credit) and we've had a lot more luck. In short, he's done what many of us were pleading for during the first half of the season.

Word perfect. The revisionism on this thread is hilarious. The bouncing of old threads out of context is even funnier. Things said in the context of the time don't become wrong or stupid because of future events. Massive credit to Potter for no longer changing the team every game and putting Ben White somewhere, anywhere, just to keep him involved. He's now started playing a goalkeeper and scoring one goal a game has gone from being the minimum standard to get a draw, to being enough to get wins. The biggest difference is the team being settled, and long may it continue. It doesn't change the fact we won once at home in 2020. It doesn't change what's happened before, but it certainly bodes well going forward.

Long may this good run continue. We're all a lot happier when the team performs well and gets the results it did last night. But anyone who pretends they weren't concerned at half time against Wolves is lying to themselves. Since then we've properly sorted ourselves out at the back and one goal is enough to win games at the moment. I said after the Newcastle win earlier in the season that the team looked like it picked itself and the players were settled in the shape. I really hope that the team doesn't start changing every game again, and Ben White remains part of the back 3 rather than being moved around again. If we keep this tactical blueprint, we'll continue this uptick in form. If it starts chopping and changing every game again then we'll go back to where we were between October and the start of January.

Unlike the happy clappy teenagers, I don't think this thread will be bounced if we go on another 9 match winless run with some pompous, "we were right all along!" rhetoric.

 

[blue-shifted]

This should have been a thread where we should have agreed to let bygones by bygones

But look at the language. "Bedwetter" "ego", "insecurity"

It just forces people to entrenched positions. We see this language and approach to debate with other aspects of life

Both sides are doing this.

Beating Liverpool away is a great chance to unite a schism which has formed in our fanbase.

But all i'm reading is "look at me, I'm the one who was right all along and this is why"

Lets reset.

Nobody has to apologise for any view held one way or the other.
Nobody has to explain or justify anything they've previously said.
Nobody should be taking this as a chance to gloat to other Albion fans that they called it early.
Nobody should be raising the stakes with baby pictures or personal attacks.

This is a happy day. But more than that, the issue of managerial tenure has been settled. We're not going down and we're not sacking Potter. This means we have the chance to leave factions aside.

The conversation should be about our bright future. The past is dead.

 

[andy1980]

Legit question . . . since when has an annual performance had any relevance to anything? everything is marked by seasons . . . players, squads, managers, performances, competitions . . . . we've always wanted at least ten per season, and thus far have only managed 9 tops. . . . time will tell this season we're just over half way through it and not quite on target yet.

Its a way to see how things are going. If that had been a season we would most likely be relegated, if we were lucky stay up by the skin of our teeth. I am a firm believer that we should always aim for 1 point a game and 2020 was not 1 point a game. I know we haven't managed 10 wins in a season but we have never been as low as 6 which is what it would have been.

 

[nickjhs]

Another 2 wins and we have matched 2020 win tally. If that isn't turning things around I don't know what is.

Are you really this dense or are you just pretending. Its hardly turning things around when you maintain the same strategy. You are now praising the same approach from the same manager that you were pissing on only a few games ago. The only thing that has changed are the points tally. Maybe you should start watching basketball, far more goals and points, might better suit your level of attention span,

 

[Sheebo]

mate , we all want the same thing and we are all Albion through and through.

No need be petty

Tbf he’s not been at all - it’s the other muppet who can’t let it go and is stalking posts by others’ - as I say - on ignore from me so no bother and comfortably put them in their place several times - keeps going and going at vaga tho - he (like myself on the potter thread) have said we’re all Albion and want the same but the other poster keeps trolling. Sorry but not Vega’s fault - weird behaviour from the other poster. Done now though - it was game set and match a long time ago

 

[zefarelly]

Its a way to see how things are going. If that had been a season we would most likely be relegated, if we were lucky stay up by the skin of our teeth. I am a firm believer that we should always aim for 1 point a game and 2020 was not 1 point a game. I know we haven't managed 10 wins in a season but we have never been as low as 6 which is what it would have been.

Fairysnuff. despite the wonder of beating spuds and Liverpool we're still on target for just under 9 . . . .so dstill work to do, not easing off the throttle the next few games against similar teams is the next challenge. nothing glam about Saturdays fixture.

 

[Sheebo]

This should have been a thread where we should have agreed to let bygones by bygones

But look at the language. "Bedwetter" "ego", "insecurity"

It just forces people to entrenched positions. We see this language and approach to debate with other aspects of life

Both sides are doing this.

Beating Liverpool away is a great chance to unite a schism which has formed in our fanbase.

But all i'm reading is "look at me, I'm the one who was right all along and this is why"

Lets reset.

Nobody has to apologise for any view held one way or the other.
Nobody has to explain or justify anything they've previously said.
Nobody should be taking this as a chance to gloat to other Albion fans that they called it early.
Nobody should be raising the stakes with baby pictures or personal attacks.

This is a happy day. But more than that, the issue of managerial tenure has been settled. We're not going down and we're not sacking Potter. This means we have the chance to leave factions aside.

The conversation should be about our bright future. The past is dead.

Great post to end on - and I agree. Def leaving it there despite the personal abuse again - been trying to focus on the huge win and turn around in results and better performances. Onwards and upwards from me here and not gonna get dragged into petty arguments despite the abuse - seeeeeeagulls!!!!

 

[andy1980]

Are you really this dense or are you just pretending. Its hardly turning things around when you maintain the same strategy. You are now praising the same approach from the same manager that you were pissing on only a few games ago. The only thing that has changed are the points tally. Maybe you should start watching basketball, far more goals and points, might better suit your level of attention span,

That is what was missing. That is what has changed. I have always said that I have no worry about anything else he is doing. I also said it is important that we keep what we have,(a place in the Premier League) especially while there is a pandemic.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Well no matter what name calling you may throw my way you’re the one making personal attacks not me. Doesn’t seem like good behaviour befitting of a moderator to be quite honest.

No, I'm pointing out how you come over on the site. [MENTION=600]Bry Nylon[/MENTION] is also a moderator and has said similar.

Mind you, you were the one who approved the “Hopefully the end of Connolly” thread. And when a few of us pointed out the hateful nature of that title you shouted us down as it being free speech.

Factually incorrect. No one approves threads unless started by a new user on their first 10 posts. I chose not to change the thread title. As did all the other moderators.

Clearly your ego is bruised as you’ve been proven wrong so attacking me. Shame on you when this is a good natured thread which others (edit: including more then a few who disagreed with me in the past) have taken it in good spirit.

Methinks you do protest too much.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

All is good now.


Time to draw a line under the In/Out/Shake it all about debate.


Onwards and upwards to Burnley and the return of the Mac

 

[andy1980]

Fairysnuff. despite the wonder of beating spuds and Liverpool we're still on target for just under 9 . . . .so dstill work to do, not easing off the throttle the next few games against similar teams is the next challenge. nothing glam about Saturdays fixture.

I agree but all the time we are 1 point a game or more then I am happy. We cant do that unless we win our fair share as we are going to loose our fair share.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

Sanchez has been a good and brave call, much as I love Maty to bits. It builds for the future bigtime. Tho IMHO it's got as much to do with abandoning the basics of 'Potterball', whatever that thing may or may not be. But certainly calling a halt on endless tinkering with the side and needless dicking around at the back seems to have had a beneficial effect. Was there maybe a clear-the-air session? Or did maybe somebody have a word? And, who knows, maybe ditching that voluntarily-reducing-the-team-to-ten-men-at-corners thing might produce a similar boost?

We've abandoned something, changed something, clear the air meetings, someone's had a word.....it must be something as I couldn't have just got it wrong?

 

[Sheebo]

All is good now.


Time to draw a line under the In/Out/Shake it all about debate.


Onwards and upwards to Burnley and the return of the Mac

Well said. Potter in for all now and get behind the team. And guess what - it won’t be plain sailing but we need positivity and to keep supporting as one - not be divided

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

I agree but all the time we are 1 point a game or more then I am happy. We cant do that unless we win our fair share as we are going to loose our fair share.

So you are happy at 1ppg, but would have sacked GP at 0.91ppg for 2020? (over the 33 2020 PL matches).

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

It's oft said that the journey is more fun than the destination. That's what I've been enjoying, the journey, because I could SEE what we were doing, developing, growing. That's what always bugged me about the Potter Outers, they wanted the destination now now now, couldn't get with the journey. If we have reached the destination now, I'm just delighted that I was on board all the way.

But I reckon we've just reached a staging post, got through the hardest part and now we keep driving forward. We're going to need a bigger bus judging by this thread.

That's my metaphor and I'm sticking with it