[Travel] Holiday plans this summer?

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I suspect many countries will only allow holiday visitors if you've had the vaccine. I'm hoping to go to Cyprus in July/August and they've announced that from 1st March if you've had the vaccine you're allowed to go. My gran has had the vaccine and she tells me she was given a little certificate after the 2nd dose to show she's had it.

Not sure how that works for children though.

Good that certificates are being given out with vaccines (in some cases only?) Not sure how widely accepted those would be though. Checking arrivals at national borders all clutching their own country's variant of a certificate would cause a nightmare of queueing while they get checked. Plus of course there will always be dodgy geezers offering knock-offs. Really needs a globally accepted certificate, possibly encoded into passports. Issuing any kind of certificate is a good start tho

 

[crodonilson]

Starting to feel a bit sorry for you with your palpable pessimism on almost anything Covid-related. Hope you’re ok........

I'm fine, thanks for your concern. I think I'm being realistic, many restrictions will astill be in place for much of this year and lessons will need to be learned about last summer and how that holidays abroad bought in different strains and started the ball rolling on the horrendouis situation and lockdown we are now in. Naturally the vaccinations will help but they will not fully rid us of this terrible pandemic and it will still take, with a fair wind, the first six months of the year to get all of the 25m on the governments priority list fully vaccinated and much of the second 6 months to get the rest of the population fully vaccinated. Anything better than this scenario is a bonus I will happily take.

 

[Weststander]

I'm fine, thanks for your concern. I think I'm being realistic, many restrictions will astill be in place for much of this year and lessons will need to be learned about last summer and how that holidays abroad bought in different strains and started the ball rolling on the horrendouis situation and lockdown we are now in. Naturally the vaccinations will help but they will not fully rid us of this terrible pandemic and it will still take, with a fair wind, the first six months of the year to get all of the 25m on the governments priority list fully vaccinated and much of the second 6 months to get the rest of the population fully vaccinated. Anything better than this scenario is a bonus I will happily take.

If 13m are vaccinated by the end of Feb, with the numbers accelerating fast as pharmacies for example are now also vaccinating, 25m will be covered in half the time you mention.

The 25m includes non-obese people in their 50’s and early 60’s, not at great risk.

 

[LamieRobertson]

If 13m are vaccinated by the end of Feb, with the numbers accelerating fast as pharmacies for example are now also vaccinating, 25m will be covered in half the time you mention.

The 25m includes non-obese people in their 50’s and early 60’s, not at great risk.

I see that as being realistic

 

[LamieRobertson]

I'm hoping to use a near 2k villa voucher!

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We’ve already played them away though

 

[LamieRobertson]

Only get to go away in February each year so this years scuppered ...but toying with a weekend somewhere in England as soon as it’s legally allowed

 

[dazzer6666]

I'm fine, thanks for your concern. I think I'm being realistic, many restrictions will astill be in place for much of this year and lessons will need to be learned about last summer and how that holidays abroad bought in different strains and started the ball rolling on the horrendouis situation and lockdown we are now in. Naturally the vaccinations will help but they will not fully rid us of this terrible pandemic and it will still take, with a fair wind, the first six months of the year to get all of the 25m on the governments priority list fully vaccinated and much of the second 6 months to get the rest of the population fully vaccinated. Anything better than this scenario is a bonus I will happily take.

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised in that case - we'll be way ahead of that. Keep the faith.......once the 25m have been vaccinated (more likely before the end March based on simple extrapolation of the numbers, not end June as we'll have 15m done by mid Feb and be running at 3m+ per week), the pressure on the NHS will massively reduce - after a lag - as the very vast majority of the remainder (u50s and including u18s) simply don't get seriously ill.

I'm expecting us to start reversing through the tiers - rigorously and cautiously - from probably around the mid/end March, with regular reviews and regional variation dependent primarily on the pressure on hospitals. Even dropping one tier a month would see us in T2 (not 'normal' by any means but much more freedom) by around the beginning May and then out of most restrictions perhaps by end May.

 

[Marty McFly]

That gives you plenty of time to come to your senses

Haha, if it wasn't for friends and family I certainly wouldn't be!

 

[crodonilson]

If 13m are vaccinated by the end of Feb, with the numbers accelerating fast as pharmacies for example are now also vaccinating, 25m will be covered in half the time you mention.

The 25m includes non-obese people in their 50’s and early 60’s, not at great risk.

The difficult bit will be when all of these 13m in the first raft and the 2nd 12m are due for their 2nd vaccination, this will dramatically drop the number of vaccinations possible to the rest of the population.

 

[LamieRobertson]

The difficult bit will be when all of these 13m in the first raft and the 2nd 12m are due for their 2nd vaccination, this will dramatically drop the number of vaccinations possible to the rest of the population.

Look at the possibility of the J&J vaccine positive news expected very soon...one dose only

 

[Weststander]

The difficult bit will be when all of these 13m in the first raft and the 2nd 12m are due for their 2nd vaccination, this will dramatically drop the number of vaccinations possible to the rest of the population.

You used to be so positive, now finding reasons to fret and every possible obstacle to normality.

Has pandemic/lockdown fatigue finally ground you down?

 

[clapham_gull]

Unless it is proved that vaccinations stop you from passing on the virus beyond protecting you from the disease...

I'd find it very uncomfortable travelling to a country that hadn't developed herd immunity through vaccination.

 

[mwrpoole]

Good that certificates are being given out with vaccines (in some cases only?) Not sure how widely accepted those would be though. Checking arrivals at national borders all clutching their own country's variant of a certificate would cause a nightmare of queueing while they get checked. Plus of course there will always be dodgy geezers offering knock-offs. Really needs a globally accepted certificate, possibly encoded into passports. Issuing any kind of certificate is a good start tho

Proof that NSC reaches far & wide. In todays FT there's talk of a digital COVID passport!

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Proof that NSC reaches far & wide. In todays FT there's talk of a digital COVID passport!

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Blimey! That's terrific news! Cheers for posting

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I think the world will open up more in March

If you look at quite a few countries they have all brought in similar testing plans.

If only the airports/airlines had suggested this all year.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I think the world will open up more in March

If you look at quite a few countries they have all brought in similar testing plans.

If only the airports/airlines had suggested this all year.

I struggle to see much changing before the summer at the earliest. The EU currently have quite a strict, and very small list, a handful of countries, which can enter the area for non-essential travel and I really can’t see this changing in a few months. Same with US. I appreciate this isn’t the world but Europe and US seem the most popular U.K. destinations.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

I think the world will open up more in March

If you look at quite a few countries they have all brought in similar testing plans.

If only the airports/airlines had suggested this all year.

EasyJet is cancelling holidays up until the last week in March amid the tightening of lockdowns around the world and international travel restrictions.

The operator says it's in the process of contacting customers who have holidays booked up to and including 24 March to let them know they will not be able to travel.

EasyJet says customers can choose to move their trip or receive a full refund or credit to be spent in the next 12 months.

Matt Callaghan, EasyJet holidays customer director, says: "We know this news will be disappointing. But we want to give our customers as much flexibility and choice as possible so they can decide what is best for them."

The company had already cancelled breaks up to the end of February following lockdown announcements made on 4 January

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

EasyJet is cancelling holidays up until the last week in March amid the tightening of lockdowns around the world and international travel restrictions.

The operator says it's in the process of contacting customers who have holidays booked up to and including 24 March to let them know they will not be able to travel.

EasyJet says customers can choose to move their trip or receive a full refund or credit to be spent in the next 12 months.

Matt Callaghan, EasyJet holidays customer director, says: "We know this news will be disappointing. But we want to give our customers as much flexibility and choice as possible so they can decide what is best for them."

The company had already cancelled breaks up to the end of February following lockdown announcements made on 4 January

They are also recruiting more crew back in, so they have an idea of what’s happening in regards to testing etc

 

[Beach Hut]

All UK travel corridors shut 04:00hrs this Monday

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Unless it is proved that vaccinations stop you from passing on the virus beyond protecting you from the disease...

I'd find it very uncomfortable travelling to a country that hadn't developed herd immunity through vaccination.

Indeed. People planning their summer holidays are just not thinking this through. This vaccination protects from severe symptoms. It does not prevent transmission. The world is not going to open up with no restrictions so people can sit on the beach.