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highflyer

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Boston Herald just endorsed Trump.

Red wave is coming

That'll definitely make the difference.

You still sticking with a wave then, even gven the polls? Not yet tempted to downgrade to the far more likely 'red ripple'?
 




pb21

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This whole thing is playing out like an episode of House of Cards, only Trump is more of a creep than Spacey or his character.
 


peterward

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So Trump didn’t say that, then?

Funny, I kinda thought he did...

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Maybe you didn't fully read what I wrote and took the first line out if context?

read it again.

More BS was not saying Trump never said it, of course he did.

More BS is the fact that the Google searches for "can I change my vote" are not all from real people genuinely googling that, but bots doing it in swing states, where votes can be changed.

The point is it's not all real people, it's more co-ordinated trump BS, he is now saying it as if many real people did Google it, they didn't.

They are I think. [MENTION=15046]peterward[/MENTION] referring to what Trump said as BS, not the post itself.

It makes me even more sure they are going to try and launch a smear bomb just before the election. Close enough ensure there isn't time for people to realise it's BS but just far enough out to have an impact on voting. I'd guess around 2 or 3 days before. Then, if they still lose, they will claim that people would have changed their vote 'had they known' but weren't allowed to, so the mail in votes should all be ruled invalid. And guess what? The supreme court will agree...

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peterward

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Boston Herald just endorsed Trump.

Red wave is coming

Desperate stuff Spence.

The Boston Herald is a small tabloid, went bankrupt in 2017, was bought by right wing media group, is something between the sun and daily Star (the trump thicko target market) and has a daily circulation of 40,000.

The Boston Globe, now that's the biggest, most widely read paper - think more The Times, than the Sun. It has a circulation of 136,000 3.5x your red wave citation.

And guess who the Globe have endorsed?

Clue: he's not Orange.

What next, The Georgia Advertiser? The Iowa lumberjack weekly?
 


Weststander

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Desperate stuff Spence.

The Boston Herald is a small tabloid, went bankrupt in 2017, was bought by right wing media group, is something between the sun and daily Star (the trump thicko target market) and has a daily circulation of 40,000.

The Boston Globe, now that's the biggest, most widely read paper - think more The Times, than the Sun. It has a circulation of 136,000 3.5x your red wave citation.

And guess who the Globe have endorsed?

Clue: he's not Orange.

What next, The Georgia Advertiser? The Iowa lumberjack weekly?

In other news, The Tallahassee Argus said vote Trump.
 






Thunder Bolt

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Trump at a rally in Lansing Michigan, warning his voters that if Biden wins, three weeks later he gets assassinated, and then they get Harris!
 










Eeyore

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Boston Herald just endorsed Trump.

Red wave is coming

You've never mentioned it. You'll look a bit of a prune if it doesn't happen.

Boston is Massachusetts.

Safe Democrat area.

It's a bit like the Scottish Daily record endorsing the Tories. I wouldn't use that as an indicator.

The election is, of course, impossible to call. But hopefully he'll be gone and the world can get some sanity back.
 




Eeyore

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Weststander

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Just watched part of a new Trump election rally. He appealed for the votes of women, by saying “we want to get your husbands back to work“.

In a time warp on his own, campaigning for a 1950’s presidential election.

Melania’s first speech criticised the Democrats “socialist agenda”. Commies under the bed, anyone?
 


Eeyore

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Just watched part of a new Trump election rally. He appealed for the votes of women, by saying “we want to get your husbands back to work“.

In a time warp on his own, campaigning for a 1950’s presidential election.

Melania’s first speech criticised the Democrats “socialist agenda”. Commies under the bed, anyone?

Never ceases to amaze me how people champion socialism as a dirty word yet simultaneously promote the adoption of many of its ideals as a cornerstone of society. The UK is probably the worst example I know.

Our whole system of governance is underpinned by socialist ideology. As soon as the NHS starts creaking and the broader welfare, education and support system starts being cut back people start complaining.

Just shows how the media can cause folk to abscond from knowledge and just repeat blind mantras.

The UK is essentially a country that has a soft form of socialism woven into a mixed economy.

America is a bit different, of course.
 
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Bozza

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Fantastic stuff from Obama in Orlando today.

"And what's his closing argument? That people are too focused on Covid. He said this at one of his rallies. Covid, Covid, Covid, he's complaining. He's jealous of Covid's media coverage. If he had been focused on Covid from the beginning, cases wouldn't be reaching new record highs across the country this week."
 


ozzygull

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Never ceases to amaze me how people champion socialism as a dirty word yet simultaneously promote the adoption of many of its ideals as a cornerstone of society. The UK is probably the worst example I know.

Our whole system of governance is underpinned by socialist ideology. As soon as the NHS starts creaking and the broader welfare, education and support system starts being cut back people start complaining.

Just shows how the media can cause folk to abscond from knowledge and just repeat blind mantras.

The UK is essentially a country that has a soft form of socialism woven into a mixed economy.

America is a bit different, of course.

You’re correct

If you ask any person In thIs country the following questions

Do you believe that health care should be free at the point of use?
Do you think that everyone should be entitled to a home, somewhere to feel safe?
Do you think that everyone should be able to afford to feed themselves and their family?
Do you think that every child regardless of background is entitled to a good standard of education?
Do you think that the most vulnerable people, young, elderly or disabled should be helped if needed?

I think the majority would agree, but they still vote for the conservatives, it’s mind boggling.
 


Bozza

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You’re correct

If you ask any person In thIs country the following questions

Do you believe that health care should be free at the point of use?
Do you think that everyone should be entitled to a home, somewhere to feel safe?
Do you think that everyone should be able to afford to feed themselves and their family?
Do you think that every child regardless of background is entitled to a good standard of education?
Do you think that the most vulnerable people, young, elderly or disabled should be helped if needed?

I think the majority would agree, but they still vote for the conservatives, it’s mind boggling.

Most recently many wouldn't have done if Labour hadn't put up Corbyn.
 


Westdene Seagull

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You’re correct

If you ask any person In thIs country the following questions

Do you believe that health care should be free at the point of use?
Do you think that everyone should be entitled to a home, somewhere to feel safe?
Do you think that everyone should be able to afford to feed themselves and their family?
Do you think that every child regardless of background is entitled to a good standard of education?
Do you think that the most vulnerable people, young, elderly or disabled should be helped if needed?

I think the majority would agree, but they still vote for the conservatives, it’s mind boggling.

As you say, virtually nobody is going to disagree with that list. The only difference is how it's delivered and some people prefer the Labour delivery methods and some people prefer the Tory delivery methods - voting Tory doesn't mean you don't want those things delivered. I obviously exclude the last GE because it was a single topic election.
 




ozzygull

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Most recently many wouldn't have done if Labour hadn't put up Corbyn.

I am sure people in the north are happy with their choice to switch. To be fair I think labour lucked in, with the Tory’s having such a big majority they have full responsibility over the sh1t show that is Covid and will soon too be followed by brexit. If anyone says why are they not doing anything as opposition, well they can’t, they have no influence what so ever.
 


ozzygull

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As you say, virtually nobody is going to disagree with that list. The only difference is how it's delivered and some people prefer the Labour delivery methods and some people prefer the Tory delivery methods - voting Tory doesn't mean you don't want those things delivered. I obviously exclude the last GE because it was a single topic election.

True but when you see that since the conservatives came to power, these things called food banks have appeared, the level of homelessness is greater then ever. Disabled people have had their allowances cut, and social care system is on its knees, then it kind of makes me believe they really don’t give a toss.
 


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