[Politics] Dominic Cummings' £30k unpaid council tax bill 'written off'

[Thunder Bolt]

Mark my words, Cummings will end up in prison one day. Or be found dead in unexplained circumstances. He’s got “sticky ending” written all over him.

I think he'll run away, possibly back to Russia.

 

[The Clamp]

I think he'll run away, possibly back to Russia.

A very good shout. He just stands out as one of those figures who crop up every now and again who ends up crossing the wrong bloke who then pays a junky to stick him in the chest in soho alleyway on a rain soaked February evening.

 

[Surf's Up]

Actually the bigger scandal is the patronage and protection he receives from Boris f ucking Johnson.

 

[happypig]

Actually the bigger scandal is the patronage and protection he receives from Boris f ucking Johnson.

1000000% this. Some people in Liverpool will be meeting up and partying this weekend as a direct result of Johnson's failure to sack Cummings.

 

[Chicken Run]

1000000% this. Some people in Liverpool will be meeting up and partying this weekend as a direct result of Johnson's failure to sack Cummings.

Let me first state that I have nothing but dislike for Cummings and what he stands for!

The “some people” you talk of however would have met up regardless of Cummingsgate and if you think any differently then you are deluded, and more importantly you actually assume that these people even know who he is ffs [emoji23]

 

[happypig]

Let me first state that I have nothing but dislike for Cummings and what he stands for!

The “some people” you talk of however would have met up regardless of Cummingsgate and if you think any differently then you are deluded, and more importantly you actually assume that these people even know who he is ffs [emoji23]

Do you not think anyone saw Cummings getting away with it and thought "Well if it's ok for him to act with impunity then I'm not staying indoors" ?

 

[nicko31]

1000000% this. Some people in Liverpool will be meeting up and partying this weekend as a direct result of Johnson's failure to sack Cummings.

Not everyone but for some will the Cummingsgate thing will never be forgotten and it does influence behaviour.

The lie was really him just saying to everyone "f**k all of you, I'll never get sacked I'm Boris's brain"

 

[Wardy's twin]

Let me first state that I have nothing but dislike for Cummings and what he stands for!

The “some people” you talk of however would have met up regardless of Cummingsgate and if you think any differently then you are deluded, and more importantly you actually assume that these people even know who he is ffs [emoji23]

whilst i am sure 'some people' will do what they want and always will I think the nation's tone changed when it became clear the rules don't apply to him moving the boundary of 'some people' into 'a lot people' , and people who before were being stricter about things.

His position is/was indefensible.

 

[portslade seagull]

Can they write mine off as well. It's not as if he cannot afford it. Some really struggle but are still chased for payment

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Can they write mine off as well. It's not as if he cannot afford it. Some really struggle but are still chased for payment

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/apr/12/woman-jailed-council-tax-bill-she-could-not-pay

Regulation 47 of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 states people can be given prison sentences for not paying council tax only if they have done so due to “wilful neglect or wilful refusal”, meaning those who have fallen into arrears because they can’t afford to pay should not be imprisoned. But campaigners say many of those given jail terms have acquired the debts because they can’t afford their bills.

Woolcock was released from prison after 40 days following an appeal. A judge found magistrates had failed to conduct a proper inquiry into her means before sentencing. A subsequent high court judgment ruled magistrates were making mistakes and wrongfully imprisoning people in 9.5%-18% of cases, but while “that level of error by magistrates is of concern and unacceptable”, it was too low to suggest “a problem inherent within the system”.

 

[portslade seagull]

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/apr/12/woman-jailed-council-tax-bill-she-could-not-pay

Regulation 47 of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 states people can be given prison sentences for not paying council tax only if they have done so due to “wilful neglect or wilful refusal”, meaning those who have fallen into arrears because they can’t afford to pay should not be imprisoned. But campaigners say many of those given jail terms have acquired the debts because they can’t afford their bills.

Woolcock was released from prison after 40 days following an appeal. A judge found magistrates had failed to conduct a proper inquiry into her means before sentencing. A subsequent high court judgment ruled magistrates were making mistakes and wrongfully imprisoning people in 9.5%-18% of cases, but while “that level of error by magistrates is of concern and unacceptable”, it was too low to suggest “a problem inherent within the system”.

That's a joke, 5% failure is too high. At 18% there is a problem. Going to get worse as the covid redundancy bite

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Oh come on! I even made it bold

Harris is an English term .... nothing to do with America.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Harris is an English term .... nothing to do with America.

You haven't heard of Kamala Harris, Biden's running mate in the US election ?

That’s the great thing about taking a dump. Once it’s out of your Harris you’re not responsible for it’s onward direction of travel.


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And bringing US politics into it is going to help it stay on track how!?

It was a joke. Not very funny, but a joke all the same

 

[Westdene Seagull]

You haven't heard of Kamala Harris, Biden's running mate in the US election ?



It was a joke. Not very funny, but a joke all the same

I have indeed heard of Kamala Harris but then I've also heard of Richard Harris .... I'm so hip that I've also heard of Calvin Harris.

The strange thing is that jokes are pretty useless when they aren't obviously jokes .... or actually funny.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Not everyone but for some will the Cummingsgate thing will never be forgotten and it does influence behaviour.

The lie was really him just saying to everyone "f**k all of you, I'll never get sacked I'm Boris's brain"

Or, like with this new example of public opinion manipulation, it was twisted to try to force him out when he had followed what was actually allowed (could relocate to another part of the country if it somewhere you would stay for a significant timeframe (ie not a weekend break, etc) and also relocate if child care was an issue - their having Covid could have meant they then needed the parents to look after the children whilst they were very sick and potentially unable to care for them as a result) Yet it's painted as even travelling to another part of the country was banned.

All this ridiculing / political witch hunt does is fuel the false belief, expressed several times on this thread already, that the rules don't matter and don't apply now because they didn't apply to Cummings, (although they did and he did follow what was acceptable at the time even if public opinion thought it wasn't) so all it does is excuse poor behaviour that seriously risks spreading the virus further (such as illegal gatherings, ignoring social distancing, not wearing masks, etc) as the incident is used therefore to dismiss the importance of following the rules / laws. It's a dangerous attitude to take and putting lives at risk and the more it's repeated that it's ok to ignore the rules because it didn't apply to Cummings, the more it is likely to mean others fail to comply too

 

[Bold Seagull]

Or, like with this new example of public opinion manipulation, it was twisted to try to force him out when he had followed what was actually allowed (could relocate to another part of the country if it somewhere you would stay for a significant timeframe (ie not a weekend break, etc) and also relocate if child care was an issue - their having Covid could have meant they then needed the parents to look after the children whilst they were very sick and potentially unable to care for them as a result) Yet it's painted as even travelling to another part of the country was banned.

All this ridiculing / political witch hunt does is fuel the false belief, expressed several times on this thread already, that the rules don't matter and don't apply now because they didn't apply to Cummings, (although they did and he did follow what was acceptable at the time even if public opinion thought it wasn't) so all it does is excuse poor behaviour that seriously risks spreading the virus further (such as illegal gatherings, ignoring social distancing, not wearing masks, etc) as the incident is used therefore to dismiss the importance of following the rules / laws. It's a dangerous attitude to take and putting lives at risk and the more it's repeated that it's ok to ignore the rules because it didn't apply to Cummings, the more it is likely to mean others fail to comply too

Driving 30 miles with his family in the car to see if his eyes worked wasn't breaking the rules at the time? I'd suggest he could take a dump on your toast and you'd thank him for the marmite*.


*other yeast based spreads are available.

 

[Stat Brother]

Driving 30 miles with his family in the car to see if his eyes worked wasn't breaking the rules at the time? I'd suggest he could take a dump on your toast and you'd thank him for the marmite*.


*other yeast based spreads are available.

But they just aren't Marmite.

 

[nicko31]

Or, like with this new example of public opinion manipulation, it was twisted to try to force him out when he had followed what was actually allowed (could relocate to another part of the country if it somewhere you would stay for a significant timeframe (ie not a weekend break, etc) and also relocate if child care was an issue - their having Covid could have meant they then needed the parents to look after the children whilst they were very sick and potentially unable to care for them as a result) Yet it's painted as even travelling to another part of the country was banned.

All this ridiculing / political witch hunt does is fuel the false belief, expressed several times on this thread already, that the rules don't matter and don't apply now because they didn't apply to Cummings, (although they did and he did follow what was acceptable at the time even if public opinion thought it wasn't) so all it does is excuse poor behaviour that seriously risks spreading the virus further (such as illegal gatherings, ignoring social distancing, not wearing masks, etc) as the incident is used therefore to dismiss the importance of following the rules / laws. It's a dangerous attitude to take and putting lives at risk and the more it's repeated that it's ok to ignore the rules because it didn't apply to Cummings, the more it is likely to mean others fail to comply too

Lay off DC everyone, its costing lives....

 

[drew]

Driving 30 miles with his family in the car to see if his eyes worked wasn't breaking the rules at the time? I'd suggest he could take a dump on your toast and you'd thank him for the marmite*.


*other yeast based spreads are available.

That is an excellent phrase!

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Driving 30 miles with his family in the car to see if his eyes worked wasn't breaking the rules at the time? I'd suggest he could take a dump on your toast and you'd thank him for the marmite*.


*other yeast based spreads are available.

It's more the fact that this is dug up time and time again and used to excuse behaviour that is currently dangerous, that's helping spread the virus and leading to loss of life (usually not the immediate person involved but innocents further along the line)

It's like saying that those lives other don't matter because the person disregarding those rules can do what he likes because of the embellishment on what DC did back then and the conclusion that all his actions were wrong, despite some of those used as an example of rule breaking being allowed under the rules at the time and somehow it gives everyone carte blanch to do what they like, whatever the consequences because political games are more important right now (i couldn't care less which party it was that did what)

I'm saying stop excusing behaviour using this incident - We are in a very serious pandemic and lives are at stake