[Football] Eric Dier climbs into the crowd to punch Spurs fan

[METALMICKY]

That's the bit that confused me too. How d-id he know someone was giving his brother grief? (If that is what happened?)

Very good point. And Tottenham in their attempt to circle the wagons are conveniently overlooking this point.

 

[Weststander]

Ok, can someone explain this to me - I have seen claims that this was racism towards his brother. Clearly Dier is very white, is his brother, or was the person making the remarks of a different race?
The clips I have seen appear to show a white dude in a red hooded coat, running away! Second, was it for a virtual brother, as I've head mention of Gedson Fernandes being abused. Thirdly, how did he know any of this was going on?

Race never came into it, that was a lie, soon dispelled. Gedson’s name was part of the lie.

A white guy in the crowd was having a row with Dier’s white brother Patrick about Eric’s performance, and warrior Eric thought he’d wade into the stands to make it 2 to 1.

 

[BNthree]

Very good point. And Tottenham in their attempt to circle the wagons are conveniently overlooking this point.

Just read an article on The Athletic where they say at the end of the match Dier was near the block where players families and corporate guests sit. Someone there abused Dier for the lacklustre performance. Dier's younger brother was there and had a go at the guy back. The guy then turned on the brother and was insulting him. Supposedly Dier saw this from the pitch and went up so confront the abuser, but the abuser ran away before he got there.

Begs the question who was the abuser? Doesn't sound like they were general sale tickets for the hoi polloi so very intriguing.

 

[Springal]

Begs the question who was the abuser? Doesn't sound like they were general sale tickets for the hoi polloi so very intriguing.

Jose said that in his interview to TalkSport just after it happened - said basically it is either a fan that has consumed too much of something, or because of where it was could be a guest / corporate so not even a fan..

 

[Acker79]

Eh. On the one hand, yeah, it is ridiculous fans can hurl abuse for 90+mins and yet when the player reacts we act all shocked and appalled. On the other hand, this isn't a case of him fronting up to abusers from the touchline (like the palace player did last season? the one before?) I'd also say it's not a momentary reaction like Cantona lunging at a fan for insulting him/his mother. He climbed over the hoarding, then had to vault over quite a few rows of seats that would allow time to reassess and realise perhaps this isn't the best thing to be doing.

I remember a game at the goldstone in the north stand there was a guy spending most of the game abusing Nicky Rust. (He was confronted by people but he kept doing so - in my memory of the event it was the Leyton Orient game and he ran on the pitch, but I could be conflating two matches).

Fans have always been abusive when things aren't going well. It's not nice, in an ideal world players wouldn't have to put up with it, but we don't live in an ideal world. But no good comes from reacting to it.

 

[Hastings gull]

Eh. On the one hand, yeah, it is ridiculous fans can hurl abuse for 90+mins and yet when the player reacts we act all shocked and appalled. On the other hand, this isn't a case of him fronting up to abusers from the touchline (like the palace player did last season? the one before?) I'd also say it's not a momentary reaction like Cantona lunging at a fan for insulting him/his mother. He climbed over the hoarding, then had to vault over quite a few rows of seats that would allow time to reassess and realise perhaps this isn't the best thing to be doing.

I remember a game at the goldstone in the north stand there was a guy spending most of the game abusing Nicky Rust. (He was confronted by people but he kept doing so - in my memory of the event it was the Leyton Orient game and he ran on the pitch, but I could be conflating two matches).

Fans have always been abusive when things aren't going well. It's not nice, in an ideal world players wouldn't have to put up with it, but we don't live in an ideal world. But no good comes from reacting to it.

Exactly. Good post.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

So, Robbie Savage gobbing off on the radio 20 minutes ago about how unprofessional Dier was and how he would never have charged up the terraces to defend the dignity of a relative.

Then his mother appears to do her usual predictions. "I am disgusted. You shouldn't have to think about it. You should stick up for me".

Savage deflated. Hilarious.

 

[Nitram]

As mentioned in the post three above mine some supporters seem very entitled to act in a way if they did it outside a football ground would see them getting arrested for abusive behaviour. It’s a culture many identify with seeing as an acceptable part of football, and one that hides behind ‘passion’. In reality it just a boorish and bullying.
Also those indulging in this behaviour would probably be fawning over the individual if they met them face to face. Pathetic individuals.#teamdier.

 

[Publius Ovidius]

Hit him on the ead
Hit im on the ead
Hit Im on the ead wiv a baseball bat
On the ed
On the Ed

 

[Weststander]

Hit him on the ead
Hit im on the ead
Hit Im on the ead wiv a baseball bat
On the ed
On the Ed

The Spuds chant in our North Stand, April 1978.

 

[Publius Ovidius]

The Spuds chant in our North Stand, April 1978.

Yep

My wife went to the game and there was a few spurs fans in the east terrace...to be honest they were thugs, but actually they were ok with us.

When the story about Dier broke on breakfast time, she burst into this song!

I was shocked..lol

 

[METALMICKY]

This could be fun! Jose has stated that Dier's frame of mind is fine and as such will feature in match away to Burnley tomorrow. Can see the Burnley faithful having a field day trying to wind him up.

 

[Easy 10]

That's the bit that confused me too. How did he know someone was giving his brother grief? (If that is what happened?)

Very good point. And Tottenham in their attempt to circle the wagons are conveniently overlooking this point.

Nobodies overlooked anything.

Dier was leaving the pitch heading to the tunnel. On his way off, he's looked up to the stands where he knows his family sits, and seen his brother in an altercation with a fan. He's waded in from there.

Fair play to him. Its a natural instinct to protect members of your family - I'd have thought less of him if he'd ignored it and thought "ahh let the stewards sort it out" (only one of which got involved - and that was only AFTER Dier was hurdling seats to get to the cowardly ratboy who took flight once he realised the bloke he'd been abusing was on his way towards him).

 

[Weststander]

Yep

My wife went to the game and there was a few spurs fans in the east terrace...to be honest they were thugs, but actually they were ok with us.

When the story about Dier broke on breakfast time, she burst into this song!

I was shocked..lol

I was in the NS, just a young kid, never a thug. Spurs fans (20 year olds?) aggressively asked us where we were from exactly, ready to whack us. A true story … my mate was Spurs and had lived right by WHL until he was ten, and he coolly gave his old address. They moved on to attack other innocents.

Those who spout the chivalrous fiction about football hooligans always having being purely crew against crew, are lying and they know it.

 

[Dr Bandler]

I was in the NS, just a young kid, never a thug. Spurs fans (20 year olds?) aggressively asked us where we were from exactly, ready to whack us. A true story … my mate was Spurs and had lived right by WHL until he was ten, and he coolly gave his old address. They moved on to attack other innocents.

Those who spout the chivalrous fiction about football hooligans always having being purely crew against crew, are lying and they know it.

This is true. Like the ICF hard men who threatened my teenage mate, who was selling programmes outside the Goldstone, with a knife. I think people are just nostalgic for what is remembered as a "better time", but as with all nostalgia it is based on distorted memories. "If only those days would come back..." - we all have a bit of that.

 

[schmunk]

Four game ban: bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53334605

 

[Weststander]

Anyone watching the League Cup game between Spuds and Chelsea?

Dier went down the tunnel in the middle of this second half, to use the loo. Mourinho ran after him with a flailing arm, furious.

 

[Is it PotG?]

As Smiffy said 'When you've gotta go, you've gotta go'.

Sooner that than a Lineker Log.

 

[Easy 10]

Some player in Ireland just got a six game ban for pissing on the pitch. What would Jose rather ?

 

[Hugo Rune]

Dier-rear?