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Sweden’s Coronovirus strategy will soon be the worlds









Klaas

I've changed this
Nov 1, 2017
2,568
I'm sorry, I haven't followed the thread, but regarding the thread title, why would Sweden's strategy soon be the world's? Don't they have almost 6000 deaths? Why wouldn't Japan, Korea, or Taiwan's (to name a few) strategies be more appealing?
 


Fat Boy Fat

New member
Aug 21, 2020
1,077
I'm sorry, I haven't followed the thread, but regarding the thread title, why would Sweden's strategy soon be the world's? Don't they have almost 6000 deaths? Why wouldn't Japan, Korea, or Taiwan's (to name a few) strategies be more appealing?

Because even journalist can be inadvertently racist, Sweden is a European country, so they are like “us” all those others you mention are Asian and they do things differently, don’t you know.

Taking my flippant hat off or a while, it probably IS because Sweden are European and closer to home, so easier to make comparisons that the average man in the street can understand (racist or not}.
 






Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
Tegnell pointed out something interesting the other day:

According to a report from WHO (feel free to find it, someone) there is a strong correleation between having unusually few influenza deaths the last 2-3 years and having a lot of Covid deaths this spring. Simply because that the normal seasonal influenza kills a lot of very vulnerable people, but if the influenza is mild a lot of those will survive until something else (like Covid-19) comes around to kill them. He said it was possibly part of the explanation why some countries experienced a lot more deaths than others. Sounds plausible to me.
 




Yoda

English & European
Tegnell pointed out something interesting the other day:

According to a report from WHO (feel free to find it, someone) there is a strong correleation between having unusually few influenza deaths the last 2-3 years and having a lot of Covid deaths this spring. Simply because that the normal seasonal influenza kills a lot of very vulnerable people, but if the influenza is mild a lot of those will survive until something else (like Covid-19) comes around to kill them. He said it was possibly part of the explanation why some countries experienced a lot more deaths than others. Sounds plausible to me.

I remember seeing a video linked in here a week or so ago (I've lost all track of time now having been wfh since March) that had noticed the same thing across Europe. Those with a higher than average ifr from last winters influenza season got of lightly for the ifr from Covid, whilst those that had a lower than average ifr from influenza were hit really hard by Covid. I expect most people brushed the guy in the video off as a covid denying loon.
 




Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
The four per cent betterment of New Zealand only came at the cost of nearly 6,000 people. I am sure the economic situation in Sweden will be of comfort to their relatives and friends.

There is absolutely no proof that we would have significantly less deaths with a lockdown. There is also no proof that the economy of New Zeeland would be better off without a lockdown. Its all far more complex than that.
 


Albion Dan

Banned
Jul 8, 2003
11,125
Peckham
The four per cent betterment of New Zealand only came at the cost of nearly 6,000 people. I am sure the economic situation in Sweden will be of comfort to their relatives and friends.

Again a huge amount of this was care homes which Sweden acknowledges it should have dealt with much better. Will be interesting to see how their death rates for other issues compares to ours where many people with cancer will die because of lack of treatment. Who knows they could end up in a better net position
 


e77

Well-known member
May 23, 2004
7,268
Worthing
Again a huge amount of this was care homes which Sweden acknowledges it should have dealt with much better. Will be interesting to see how their death rates for other issues compares to ours where many people with cancer will die because of lack of treatment. Who knows they could end up in a better net position

I am sure regardless of if they are or not you will claim they are.
 




London Pompous

Active member
Feb 16, 2008
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bWize

Well-known member
Nov 6, 2007
1,685
LBC aren’t claiming that, Nick Ferrari is. He’s not representative of the whole of LBC, any more than the NSC’er who was locked up for being a paedophile is representative for the whole of NSC.

Eh? Which NSC'er was that?
 


darkwolf666

Well-known member
Nov 8, 2015
7,576
Sittingbourne, Kent
Tegnell pointed out something interesting the other day:

According to a report from WHO (feel free to find it, someone) there is a strong correleation between having unusually few influenza deaths the last 2-3 years and having a lot of Covid deaths this spring. Simply because that the normal seasonal influenza kills a lot of very vulnerable people, but if the influenza is mild a lot of those will survive until something else (like Covid-19) comes around to kill them. He said it was possibly part of the explanation why some countries experienced a lot more deaths than others. Sounds plausible to me.

Bit like if you get hit by a push bike it may only hurt you, but a juggernaut will flatten you

That's ok then.. I am sure that will ease the minds of those who have lost someone to Covid, to know there loved one gained a bit of extra time before dieing alone...
 




Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
Bit like if you get hit by a push bike it may only hurt you, but a juggernaut will flatten you

That's ok then.. I am sure that will ease the minds of those who have lost someone to Covid, to know there loved one gained a bit of extra time before dieing alone...

Its not about making something ok or not ok, its about finding scientific answers.
 


Albion Dan

Banned
Jul 8, 2003
11,125
Peckham
LBC aren’t claiming that, Nick Ferrari is. He’s not representative of the whole of LBC, any more than the NSC’er who was locked up for being a paedophile is representative for the whole of NSC.

My point was actually that it was being represented on the mainstream platform which is encouraging. Why are you talking about peados? Anyway at least this reply carried more class than a joke about my mother’s grave. You must have been proud of that one.
 












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