Just how awful is this government? June 2020 edition

[Randy McNob]

 

[A1X]

Well to piss on your parade Govenment legislation is in place and a bit lateral agreement with France to stop illegal entry in to the UK, no sane person wants criminal activity breaking into our border come the approved route with your ID
Regards
DF

The bi-lateral agreement which relies on EU membership?

As for the rest, please refer to Thunder Bolt's link posted above.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

You don't have to explain anything, look no further than the country they left and the country's they travelled through, we're not a dumping ground
ILLEGAL MIGRANTS NOT WANTED IN THE UK

regards
DF

I wonder if this extract from the best of Brexit Blogs might be helpful? (Actually, I know it will be helpful; my uncertainty is about whether you will bother to read it. If you feel it's a bit long, perhaps I can summarise it. "IN PRACTICAL REALITY, BREXIT IS LIKELY TO GIVE US LESS CONTROL OVER IMMIGRATION, NOT MORE.")

For what this latest episode brings into focus is that Brexit, far from allowing Britain to take back control, is likely to make the situation much more complicated. This is because, as Professor Steve Peers explained in an excellent blog this week, within the tangled maze of international law and conventions about refugees and asylum seekers, the EU’s Dublin rules provide part of the framework to address this issue.

To very briefly summarise (as so often, it’s a complex issue, so do please use the links to get a fuller picture), Peers explains that the oft-quoted idea that those seeking asylum are obliged to do so in the first safe country they reach is bogus (and there are often good reasons why they do not). However, amongst its participants, the Dublin rules do often assign responsibility to that country, even if asylum has been sought elsewhere in the EU. In practice, this often provides the basis on which some of those relatively few asylum seekers who reach the UK are returned to France and elsewhere which, apparently, is what Brexiters want (the idea of any obligation either to the people themselves or to other countries not being a prominent feature of their moral universe, and indeed, reading posts on social media, the idea of refugees being people at all seems to be beyond some of them).

Yet that and other EU provisions will be lost to the UK at the end of the transition period. It may be that the UK and the EU agree something similar (or, even, better) but it is by no means clear that this is in prospect – or even that it has been the subject of substantive discussion - and Peers concludes trenchantly that as regards asylum seekers “the effect of Brexit may be ultimately to reduce UK control of migration, not increase it”.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

The bi-lateral agreement which relies on EU membership?

As for the rest, please refer to Thunder Bolt's link posted above.

pissing into the wind i'm afraid, all will be revealed , ILLEGAL MIGRANTS TO BE SENT BACK , NOT WANTED IN THE UK, 700 have already, its a start
regards
DF

 

[Randy McNob]

My theory is Fromage is working secretly for the government, they need a distraction to cover up their ineptitude over, well, everything

Chuck the mob a racist bone to chew on for a while

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I wonder if this extract from the best of Brexit Blogs might be helpful? (Actually, I know it will be helpful; my uncertainty is about whether you will bother to read it. If you feel it's a bit long, perhaps I can summarise it. "IN PRACTICAL REALITY, BREXIT IS LIKELY TO GIVE US LESS CONTROL OVER IMMIGRATION, NOT MORE.")

For what this latest episode brings into focus is that Brexit, far from allowing Britain to take back control, is likely to make the situation much more complicated. This is because, as Professor Steve Peers explained in an excellent blog this week, within the tangled maze of international law and conventions about refugees and asylum seekers, the EU’s Dublin rules provide part of the framework to address this issue.

To very briefly summarise (as so often, it’s a complex issue, so do please use the links to get a fuller picture), Peers explains that the oft-quoted idea that those seeking asylum are obliged to do so in the first safe country they reach is bogus (and there are often good reasons why they do not). However, amongst its participants, the Dublin rules do often assign responsibility to that country, even if asylum has been sought elsewhere in the EU. In practice, this often provides the basis on which some of those relatively few asylum seekers who reach the UK are returned to France and elsewhere which, apparently, is what Brexiters want (the idea of any obligation either to the people themselves or to other countries not being a prominent feature of their moral universe, and indeed, reading posts on social media, the idea of refugees being people at all seems to be beyond some of them).

Yet that and other EU provisions will be lost to the UK at the end of the transition period. It may be that the UK and the EU agree something similar (or, even, better) but it is by no means clear that this is in prospect – or even that it has been the subject of substantive discussion - and Peers concludes trenchantly that as regards asylum seekers “the effect of Brexit may be ultimately to reduce UK control of migration, not increase it”.

you keep on believing that crap ,Legislation is in place to RETURN illegal migrants
regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlIiJ8b37EM
regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

https://youtu.be/D9LdPiAkmDg
regards
DF

 

[Randy McNob]

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

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Why don't they pay to get on a ferry ?, just show your passport , oh hold on they haven't got one ,they're illegally entering the UK supported by a few do gooders virtue signalling
Regards
DF

 

[birthofanorange]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlIiJ8b37EM
regards
DF

It's hard to choose which of you is the bigger c***.

I guess it has to be Fromage, as he reaches the wider audience, but you run him a close second.

 

[wellquickwoody]

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Are they not supposed to claim refugee status in the first country they enter where it is safe to do so?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

It's hard to choose which of you is the bigger c***.

I guess it has to be Fromage, as he reaches the wider audience, but you run him a close second.

Says a **** actively encouraging more illegalls to do the same thing
Regards
DF

 

[Randy McNob]

Are they not supposed to claim refugee status in the first country they enter where it is safe to do so?

no.

Its nonsense anyway because by that logic only the country next to one where the problem occurs should shoulder the burden and the UK would only have to take migrants if there was a war in France ot Ireland. Wars and the refugees they produce is a world problem and we all have to do our fair share, especially when we have our grubby hands on arms deals and bombings.

People like Farage think we should ignore the issue and turn our backs on the problem, but doing that makes it worse and the reason it has got to this stage

 

[beorhthelm]

no.

Its nonsense anyway because by that logic only the country next to one where the problem occurs should shoulder the burden and the UK would only have to take migrants if there was a war in France ot Ireland. Wars and the refugees they produce is a world problem and we all have to do our fair share, especially when we have our grubby hands on arms deals and bombings.

are you suggesting the refugees travel through half a dozen countries to the UK as some sort of payback? or is there any other reason they might make this country their destination?

 

[Baker lite]

no.

Its nonsense anyway because by that logic only the country next to one where the problem occurs should shoulder the burden and the UK would only have to take migrants if there was a war in France ot Ireland. Wars and the refugees they produce is a world problem and we all have to do our fair share, especially when we have our grubby hands on arms deals and bombings.

People like Farage think we should ignore the issue and turn our backs on the problem, but doing that makes it worse and the reason it has got to this stage

See you at the Quinoa festival
W ️

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

See you at the Quinoa festival
W ️

So given we are leaving the EU properly in Jan

What do you think will motivate the french to stop any of the migrants in the french camp?

Given we can’t stop the boats once they are in the water and they will be out the EU so no longer an EU issue?

 

[WATFORD zero]

It is truly hilarious watching it slowly dawn on our little bunch of racists in the Bear Pit what they have actually done

 

[CHAPPERS]

are you suggesting the refugees travel through half a dozen countries to the UK as some sort of payback? or is there any other reason they might make this country their destination?

Do you think that 100% of the refugees feeling wars are coming to the UK?

 

[A1X]

My theory is Fromage is working secretly for the government, they need a distraction to cover up their ineptitude over, well, everything

Chuck the mob a racist bone to chew on for a while

The greatest trick the establishment ever pulled was convincing morons they're "anti-establishment".