[Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

[Palacefinder General]

Kilo Whiskey has made the fatal mistake of engaging. 24 posts and counting. Get out while you still can fella! Log off and don't look on here again or the next thing you know it'll be 2032 and you'll still be arguing the toss.

 

[dadams2k11]

Is this the season we find out if a top manager can avoid relegation with a bottom three squad? It’s a question that has been asked every season. Not sure one has ever done it though as they don’t tend to manage teams like that.

I will be interested to see how much money Leeds throw at this rather cavalier sounding exercise.

That is a very good point.

 

[highflyer]

Fans were praising him here too, long before he went on loan to Posh or Leeds.
https://www.newport-county.co.uk/news/2018/april/ben-white/

He's clearly Newport through and through.
Why would he ever want to go anywhere else after that kind of support and adulation?
It is clear that he bleeds (checks photo again) yellow and black.

 

[Killer Whale]

Graeme Souness and Jack Charlton were at Middlesbrough for four years together, not a few weeks.

Fans were praising him here too, long before he went on loan to Posh or Leeds.
https://www.newport-county.co.uk/news/2018/april/ben-white/

Why didn't you blood him last season, then? Will he even get regular starts this season?

If he is good enough he is old enough.

That is the problem with all you big shot Premier League Clubs, with your limitless money and huge squads. You hog all the talent and would rather have a player wasting away on the bench than joining a rival.

It is anti competitive and the reason the Premiership is such a boring League to watch!

 

[Icy Gull]

Why didn't you blood him last season, then? Will he even get regular starts this season?

If he is good enough he is old enough.

That is the problem with all you big shot Premier League Clubs, with your limitless money and huge squads. You hog all the talent and would rather have a player wasting away on the bench than joining a rival.

It is anti competitive and the reason the Premiership is such a boring League to watch!

We were blooding Webster

Ben is next in line but with a year’s more experience. You clearly haven’t noticed that he goes up a League a year. He’s now ready, thanks little Leeds

Oh and since you were last here the name has changed from the Premiership to the Premier League, just a heads up

 

[vagabond]

Why didn't you blood him last season, then? Will he even get regular starts this season?

If he is good enough he is old enough.

That is the problem with all you big shot Premier League Clubs, with your limitless money and huge squads. You hog all the talent and would rather have a player wasting away on the bench than joining a rival.

It is anti competitive and the reason the Premiership is such a boring League to watch!

Aha... there it is, the truth comes out, so you are as deluded as the rest of them.

Another Leeds fan who doesn’t understand the loan system.

“Why didn’t you blood him last season then” - we did, that’s what the loan system is for? He’s had a well set development path. A competitive Championship club was perfect for his next move.

You realise other clubs do this right? It’s quite standard. You know Harry Kane was loaned out? Beckham? Mason Mount?

It’s really not a sign the parent club doesn’t rate them. Quite the opposite actually.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

We should be thankful we haven't had so much grief from Millwall fans about Molumby's successful Championship loan.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Why didn't you blood him last season, then? Will he even get regular starts this season?

If he is good enough he is old enough.

That is the problem with all you [B]big shot Premier League Clubs[/B], with your limitless money and huge squads. You hog all the talent and would rather have a player wasting away on the bench than joining a rival.

It is anti competitive and the reason the Premiership is such a boring League to watch!

We’ve made it at last ...no longer “teams like Brighton”

 

[Clive Walker]

Why didn't you blood him last season, then? Will he even get regular starts this season?

If he is good enough he is old enough.

That is the problem with all you big shot Premier League Clubs, with your limitless money and huge squads. You hog all the talent and would rather have a player wasting away on the bench than joining a rival.

It is anti competitive and the reason the Premiership is such a boring League to watch!

Central defence is traditionally our strongest area. We heavily relied on dunk and Duffy for two previous survival attempts. We’d brought in the best CB from the championship and changed manager. The formula was working to a certain extent at the back.

It would have been risky to have bled in a youngster with little experience above league 1.

Safest option was to build on Webster, allow white to gain experience at a higher level and see if Duffy can adapt to the new style of play.

Turns out to have been the best decision for us, Ben and Leeds.

 

[Justice]

Leeds fans think they are massive, the media thinks they are massive players they are looking to sign will think they are a distinctly average relegation threatened side in the PL.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Ben White is the player he is because of himself. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. White has adapted to and excelled at every level he's stepped up to. I'm sure he'll look back fondly at his season with Leeds, he's played every game in a title winning team in a very competitive league, in front of 30,000+ fans for a manager with a fantastic reputation. Why on earth wouldn't he have good memories of that?

But, Bielsa hasn't 'made' him anymore than we have, Southampton have, Newport have or Peterborough have. His ability, his hard work and his mentality are what have earned him each of those opportunities and each of those opportunities have led to the next.

If he didn't have the right attitude and ability we wouldn't have picked him up when Southampton released him, he wouldn't have shone in the U-18's and U-23's, he wouldn't have earned his player of the year winning season at Newport which lead to his time at Peterborough. All of which left him in a position to go to Leeds and excel.

Brighton have managed his progress well and must be absolutely ecstatic how well he stepped up at Leeds. I have no doubt however that he'd be getting similar rave reviews if his and Clarke's loan deals had been reversed and he had gone to Derby instead because that's exactly what he's done every step of his career so far with us. It's entirely plausible that Bielsa has made White an even better player than he would have been but that's all he's done,at most.

It's been a tremendously successful loan and all three parties should be delighted how it's gone. Leeds because he has played an important part in getting them back to the premier league, White because it's shown he's a player ready for the highest level and us because we've got yet another quality centre back on our hands. It cost us 20million to get the best CB in the championship last summer. We've got this season's one on our books already. To go along with the best two centre halves of 2015-17.

 

[Betfair Bozo]

Why didn't you blood him last season, then? Will he even get regular starts this season?

If he is good enough he is old enough.

That is the problem with all you big shot Premier League Clubs, with your limitless money and huge squads. You hog all the talent and would rather have a player wasting away on the bench than joining a rival.

It is anti competitive and the reason the Premiership is such a boring League to watch!

Any idea what you will do with your "special talent" Alfie McCalmont this season? If he is good enough he is old enough, as someone once remarked.....

 

[Killer Whale]

We were blooding Webster

Ben is next in line but with a year’s more experience. You clearly haven’t noticed that he goes up a League a year. He’s now ready, thanks little Leeds

Oh and since you were last here the name has changed from the Premiership to the Premier League, just a heads up

Fair enough, I stand corrected. It isn't a League that I have taken much interest in for many many years, I follow the Division my club plays in, obviously.

Which this upcoming season will be the Premier League. When I read this website I wonder whether we are better off out of it, mind. It clearly changes clubs for the worse, look at you guys on here.

If the supporters Brighton and Hove Albion, whom I always thought were a genuine, unspoilt, decent bunch can be so insufferably arrogant, what is it going to be like when we come up against the likes of Liverpool, Scum and Chelsea? Well I know the answer to that already of course.

You are going to say you were only kidding. But many a true word spoken in jest...

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

That is the problem with all you big shot Premier League Clubs, with your limitless money and huge squads. You hog all the talent and would rather have a player wasting away on the bench than joining a rival.

That's why Big Shot Brighton let him go to Leeds...

 

[Stat Brother]

Fair enough, I stand corrected. It isn't a League that I have taken much interest in for many many years, I follow the Division my club plays in, obviously.

Which this upcoming season will be the Premier League. When I read this website I wonder whether we are better off out of it, mind. It clearly changes clubs for the worse, look at you guys on here.

If the supporters Brighton and Hove Albion, whom I always thought were a genuine, unspoilt, decent bunch can be so insufferably arrogant, what is it going to be like when we come up against the likes of Liverpool, Scum and Chelsea? Well I know the answer to that already of course.

You are going to say you were only kidding. But many a true word spoken in jest...

I'd say we're fighting fire with fire.


We know our place and are moderately comfortable there.

 

[FatSuperman]

I'd say we're fighting fire with fire.


We know are place and are moderately comfortable there.

You have to be disappointed with yourself here, Stat.

 

[Dutch]

1. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. A player has to have certain attributes to succeed, natural ability is the non plus ultra and the experiences that have formed him at Academy Level and then in the Professional game. (With Newport County I believe?)

But yes, his time at Leeds has been life changing for him as a player. It will underpin his career for the rest of his playing life. The experience of being coached by a managerial genius, playing in a highly sophisticated tactical system, and having success at a good standard of football, just one step down from the very highest, will be the bedrock of a career that I think will include many years as an international, forming the core of the defence of a top four club.

Why would this not be so? I ask those reading to think of their own early lives, their days at school, their first steps in their careers. Are there not formative individuals and experiences that make us all what we are? So why would Ben White be different?

2. No.

Ben White certainly improved under Biesla and Leeds. However, ridiculous bid being withstanding, he will now come into a squad that also plays 'a highly sophisticated tactical system' under the tutelage of one of the best managers in this league. Potter is in the same mould as Bielsa, Klopp and Guardiola. Mercurial managers who have the ability to man manage and improve players whilst being tactically flexible and astute.

This is where many Leeds fans come unstuck from our point of view. They have no knowledge or understanding of how good a manager Potter is and how well our club is run from top to bottom. Ben White is in capable hands and always has been.

 

[Betfair Bozo]

You have to be disappointed with yourself here, Stat.

Agreed, that is real log out for a week stuff. Time for reflection.

 

[Betfair Bozo]

Ben White certainly improved under Biesla and Leeds. However, ridiculous bid being withstanding, he will now come into a squad that also plays 'a highly sophisticated tactical system' under the tutelage of one of the best managers in this league. Potter is in the same mould as Bielsa, Klopp and Guardiola. Mercurial managers who have the ability to man manage and improve players whilst being tactically flexible and astute.

This is where many Leeds fans come unstuck from our point of view. They have no knowledge or understanding of how good a manager Potter is and how well our club is run from top to bottom. Ben White is in capable hands and always has been.

Their owner understands.

https://motleedsnews.com/news/leeds...n-question-names-pl-club-he-wants-to-emulate/

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yes they will play the same way, no they won't have the same results.

They are a bunch of players from our Academy, or retreads from the lower leagues, who cost nothing, and are paid a pittance. Mostly British.

If they avoid relegation in this league of mega bucks players from all over the planet it will be a huge achievement. But I still say they will surprise many...

And if they do it will be down to the Manager. In football it is ALL about the Manager, as I am sure you know as well as I.

Bielsa is a magician, you've said it yourself, so he can work wonders with your Academy players. After all, in your own words, he changed Ben's life for ever.

Btw we have two players in our own 25 man squad who play nearly every game, who are not only from our own youth but were born within 12 miles of our stadium. Lewis Dunk (England cap) and Solly March (England U21) so we don't pay mega bucks for players all over the planet.
If I recall rightly, our record transfer fee is 17million (no doubt someone will correct me on that)

Brighton fans, arrogant? Ha ha ha ha That's a good one.