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Stat Brother

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Might be a bit simplistic

But why didn’t the police just point blank refuse to tear gas those peaceful protestors in DC?

Because The Commander In Chief told them to do it.


All my years of watching American army films has taught me one thing:-

'Americans will do as they are told, until there's the chance not following orders will result in they themselves being killed.
At that point - orders what orders...






...Aaaarrrgggghhhhhhhh - I've been shot'.
 




Hugo Rune

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November might come too late for a new President. The permanent damage might have been done by the time Trump is ousted.
 






Hugo Rune

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The majority of those who voted for Trump will do so again. Be a major surprise if he is not re-elected.

You’re right that Trump supporters can see no wrong in him and will support him once again.

But I’m hoping that the ‘Black Lives Matter’ movement can mobilise enough people of colour who don’t normally vote to get out this year and change the balance.
 




Deportivo Seagull

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The majority of those who voted for Trump will do so again. Be a major surprise if he is not re-elected.

A swing of 3% is all that is needed by the democrats. So even if the majority of those that did vote for Trump stayed with him he’d still be gone.


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A swing of 3% is all that is needed by the democrats. So even if the majority of those that did vote for Trump stayed with him he’d still be gone.


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I have more confidence in the middle aged racist man firing his arrows at "African Americans" voting for Trump.
Than I have confidence in any of the 20 people that beat him up voting for Biden.
 






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I must get myself over to DC.

I had no idea Functional Threshold Power, was such a big thing.
I thought it was just a nerdy cycling metric, but they seem to have really embraced it.

FTP.jpg




(A proper niche gag for the Cycling Geeks)
 


beorhthelm

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The majority of those who voted for Trump will do so again. Be a major surprise if he is not re-elected.

remember a majority of the population did not vote for him though, he won enough states to gain their electoral college delegates. needs a few swing states to swing, its going to be very close either way.
 


hans kraay fan club

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I have more confidence in the middle aged racist man firing his arrows at "African Americans" voting for Trump.
Than I have confidence in any of the 20 people that beat him up voting for Biden.

I would hope that the easily-identifiable bowman, will be behind bars for attempted murder, and thus ineligible to vote*, four years from now.

*so long as the incident didn’t take place in Alaska, Maine or Vermont...
 
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Harry Wilson's tackle

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i wonder if his reaction will backfire on Trump. he think it looks strong, he's playing to his own crowd, but how many moderate, middle of the road republicans will be appalled by the uncaring and heavy handed attitude and simply not vote?

Unfortunately they will wake up and vote when they remember Trump is up against Sleepy Joe, just as countless numbers of moderates turned out to vote for Boris the Liar when they remembered he was up against Jezza.
 


Mo Gosfield

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You’re right that Trump supporters can see no wrong in him and will support him once again.

But I’m hoping that the ‘Black Lives Matter’ movement can mobilise enough people of colour who don’t normally vote to get out this year and change the balance.


Trump knew that if he was seen to be sorting out the economy and protecting the interests of the American people, then he would retain support. He has largely been successful doing that. The ' Mexican issue ' was a vote winner as well and he went out of his way to ramp up that invective in his early days. I take your point about the ' BLM ' movement but I still think Trump has enough brownie points to see him over the line
 


Mo Gosfield

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Unfortunately they will wake up and vote when they remember Trump is up against Sleepy Joe, just as countless numbers of moderates turned out to vote for Boris the Liar when they remembered he was up against Jezza.


The vote for Boris was a ' Brexit weary ' electorate saying....' there you are....now for God's sake get it done and dusted ' Next time round that excuse will not be available.
 




nwgull

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The majority of those who voted for Trump will do so again. Be a major surprise if he is not re-elected.

Not according to polls: Biden is ahead of Hilary at the same stage 4 years ago in both national and swing state polls.

Trump needs every vote he won in 2016 to vote for him again in November. Current indications are that, if the election were tomorrow, he's lost more than enough votes to lose a few states to the democrats.
 


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The vote for Boris was a ' Brexit weary ' electorate saying....' there you are....now for God's sake get it done and dusted ' Next time round that excuse will not be available.

Well, it may be possible to argue that those frothing at the mouth about Corbyn would never ever vote labour anyway, but my impression was that labour would have picked up more votes and seats had Corbyn not been leader.

I agree that Boris did vacuum all the 'let's get Brexit done', 'just shoot me now', 'I can no longer live with the uncertainty' and 'I voted remain but would rather leave than go on with this a second more' cretins, though.
 


nwgull

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I have more confidence in the middle aged racist man firing his arrows at "African Americans" voting for Trump.
Than I have confidence in any of the 20 people that beat him up voting for Biden.

I have plenty of confidence that these people will vote for whoever the Democrats put up against Trump.
 


Gwylan

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Not according to polls: Biden is ahead of Hilary at the same stage 4 years ago in both national and swing state polls.

Biden is substantially ahead in Michigan and Pennsylvania and narrowly ahead in Florida and Virginia. The real shock is that he's only just behind Trump in Texas. It depends how the current unrest plays out, but my gut feeling is that hard-core Trump supporters will love his bible-clutching, 2nd Amendment rhetoric but many middle-of-the-road voters will be very uneasy.
 




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Weststander

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Anyone else here upset watching Trump last night?

His speech - a token 30 seconds of crocodile tears for George Floyd, followed by a carefully orchestrated 7 minute 'law and order' monologue. Preceded by innocent protestors being cleared for a carefully timed photo shoot, with a wnkish Attorney General watching on the lawns to give a pathetic image of a strong man.

Zero humility, undemocratic, certainly not the Home of the Free.

Trump and his cronies are evil.
 


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