[Football] Scholes or Gerrard

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Who was better, Scholes or Gerrard

  • Scholes

    Votes: 58 56.3%
  • Gerrard

    Votes: 45 43.7%

  • Total voters
    103


LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.
Oct 14, 2009
12,982
Sheffield
Scholes technically.

Gerrard influentially.

Both absolutely fantastic players who should have been better utilised by useless Sven (yes I'm still angry about it).

I can't decide because they weren't the same type of player.

It feels like asking who's better, Dunk or Murray?
 




SeagullinExile

Well-known member
Sep 10, 2010
5,732
London
Since Ferjiguson retired, there has been a number of failed managers and players at Manure. Scholes seems to always first to put the boot in. Also - he was asked to join the England Squad in South Africa but refused because Capello did not call him personally, he now regrets this.

I'm not sure that makes him a bad person tbh. But hey, we live in a world of opinions. :thumbsup:
 




LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.
Oct 14, 2009
12,982
Sheffield
Ⓩ-Ⓐ-[emoji713 said:
-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ;9326377]Not really, Scholes and Gerrard are both central midfielders.
I said "it feels like" because I see them as totally different types of player. Despite both playing central midfield.

Well unless Sven was sticking one or the other on the wing, the halfwit.
 


Barham's tash

Well-known member
Jun 8, 2013
3,623
Rayners Lane
Not even close. Scholes all day long. When Zidane calls you the best midfielder in the world you know you’re good.

Gerrard on the other hand was basically the world’s best pub player able to take mediocrity around him and pull it up only so far by its boot straps.

Scholes would have walked into any international team in the world.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,388
Scholes final third more creativity, Gerrard quintessential box to box. I'd pick Gerrard first, like having an extra player.
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
17,162
I always thought Gerrard.

However I also recognise my anti United bias.

I would agree that Gerrard was more versatile though.

Still irritates me that England couldn't make use of three of the best midfielders around.

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jonny.rainbow

Well-known member
Oct 29, 2005
6,646
Not even close. Scholes all day long. When Zidane calls you the best midfielder in the world you know you’re good.

Gerrard on the other hand was basically the world’s best pub player able to take mediocrity around him and pull it up only so far by its boot straps.

Scholes would have walked into any international team in the world.

In fairness, Pele once said Steve McManaman was the best player in the world.

If Zidane has played with both Scholes and Gerrard, then I’d value his opinion a lot more.
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
18,194
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Steven Gerrard was magnificent in a Liverpool team built around him to showcase his strengths

Paul Scholes would have walked into any team in the world at his pomp, and probably still would.

Therefore as a player, Scholes is superior.
 






Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
21,788
Brighton
I always thought Gerrard.

However I also recognise my anti United bias.

I would agree that Gerrard was more versatile though.

Still irritates me that England couldn't make use of three of the best midfielders around.

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I watched Hargreaves in the 1/4 final vs Portugal in Gelsenkirchen. He put in a performance that Kante would have been proud of, best player on the pitch! If it wasn’t for injuries, he’d be mentioned alongside Scholes & Gerrard too.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
64,643
Withdean area
Scholes technically.

Gerrard influentially.

Both absolutely fantastic players who should have been better utilised by useless Sven (yes I'm still angry about it).

I can't decide because they weren't the same type of player.

It feels like asking who's better, Dunk or Murray?

Gerrard could and repeatedly did single-handedly lift teams with average players:

This broke the hearts of West Ham plastics I worked with. Starting a lifetime hatred of LFC:





Scholes was a different sort of player, not a powerhouse or defender, also brilliant, and lucky to play in quality squads.
 






Barham's tash

Well-known member
Jun 8, 2013
3,623
Rayners Lane
In fairness, Pele once said Steve McManaman was the best player in the world.

If Zidane has played with both Scholes and Gerrard, then I’d value his opinion a lot more.

He played against both does that not? Does being a World Cup winner not qualify him?

Steven Gerrard was magnificent in a Liverpool team built around him to showcase his strengths

Paul Scholes would have walked into any team in the world at his pomp, and probably still would.

Therefore as a player, Scholes is superior.

This. It’s the only unbiased way to look at it.

Gerrard was excellent, unquestionably so, but Scholes was different gravy.
 


boik

Well-known member
Scholes made other team-mates look good. Gerrard made himself look good (and he was indeed very good). Those little "blind" (he'd always looked first) passes around the corner by Scholes opened up so many chances for others.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
64,643
Withdean area
Scholes made other team-mates look good. Gerrard made himself look good (and he was indeed very good). Those little "blind" (he'd always looked first) passes around the corner by Scholes opened up so many chances for others.

Scholes, in superior teams:
PL goals 107
PL assists 55
PL big chances created 5
PL through balls 44
PL passes per match 20

Gerrard, in inferior teams:
PL goals 120
PL assists 92
PL big chances created 34
PL through balls 1195
PL passes per match 30

I think both were great to play with. Not to mention their immense CL stats.

A shame that Gerrard missed the 2002 WC Finals. Butt took his place.
 


boik

Well-known member
Scholes, in superior teams:
PL goals 107
PL assists 55
PL big chances created 5
PL through balls 44
PL passes per match 20

Gerrard, in inferior teams:
PL goals 120
PL assists 92
PL big chances created 34
PL through balls 1195
PL passes per match 30

I think both were great to play with. Not to mention their immense CL stats.

A shame that Gerrard missed the 2002 WC Finals. Butt took his place.

Interesting stats. Thank you. Not sure if my memory is playing tricks, or Scholes passes don't register as assists if they are further back in the move. Shame that there didn't seem to be a way to get those 2 and Lamps playing together.

And Pele reckoned that Nicky Butt was one of the players of the tournament in 2002. Funny old game.
 




DJ NOBO

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2004
6,409
Wiltshire
There is only one answer . Gerrard. The complete footballer.
 


GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,973
Gloucester
Scholes was a good footballer - a very good one.

Gerrard was an inspirational footballer and a fine captain too. Gerrard every time.
 


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