How do you think Boris has handled it so far ?

[RossyG]

Someone you stick up for?

Karen Gillan?

 

[Machiavelli]

Karen Gillan?

You and I are in full agreement

 

[Bwian]

China has lied, people have died.


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Sounds like our government.



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[Baker lite]

Sounds like our government.



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Ooh no, the Chinese government lied and around the world hundreds of thousands of people have died. The Chinese government is solely responsible.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Ooh no, the Chinese government lied and around the world hundreds of thousands of people have died. The Chinese government is solely responsible.

Thought I'd unblock you for a moment.

Sometimes I get the urge to punch a complete stranger very hard in the face...

 

[Baker lite]

Thought I'd unblock you for a moment.

Sometimes I get the urge to punch a complete stranger very hard in the face...

I can Pm you my seat number at the Amex if you like, you could come and introduce yourself the next time there’s a game, let Me know.

 

[GT49er]

Thought I'd unblock you for a moment.

Sometimes I get the urge to punch a complete stranger very hard in the face...

Well, TBF, if the Chinese government had clamped down on their wet markets, and passed and enforced draconian laws to outlaw the human consumption of bats, rats, cats (including coronavirus infected tigers), pangolins, spiny ant-eaters, monkeys, aardvarks and any other random mammals that failed to scuttle past the abattoir fast enough, we may not have had this problem ........?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Well, TBF, if the Chinese government had clamped down on their wet markets, and passed and enforced draconian laws to outlaw the human consumption of bats, rats, cats (including coronavirus infected tigers), pangolins, spiny ant-eaters, monkeys, aardvarks and any other random mammals that failed to scuttle past the abattoir fast enough, we may not have had this problem ........?

Don't start being fair. Now is not the time. The time to be fair is when we start on recriminations.

 

[vegster]

Ooh no, the Chinese government lied and around the world hundreds of thousands of people have died. The Chinese government is solely responsible.

Sounds like you have the proof and evidence, are you going to sue?

 

[GT49er]

Don't start being fair. Now is not the time. The time to be fair is when we start on recriminations.

Isn't that a bit like after-timing?

 

[Swansman]

Well, TBF, if the Chinese government had clamped down on their wet markets, and passed and enforced draconian laws to outlaw the human consumption of bats, rats, cats (including coronavirus infected tigers), pangolins, spiny ant-eaters, monkeys, aardvarks and any other random mammals that failed to scuttle past the abattoir fast enough, we may not have had this problem ........?

Or the same market would have occurred underground (its still possible despite their new fancy surveillance society) and the disease could have gone unnoticed for a longer time, causing more harm. From everything I've read China seems to be pretty keen on getting rid of these wildlife markets but they are also quite keen on avoiding them splitting in to smaller, black markets spread all over some regions. Its a pretty delicate (maybe, havent tried pangolin) problem.

 

[Baker lite]

Sounds like you have the proof and evidence, are you going to sue?

I’m rather hoping that our Government will, in due course seek reparations from China.


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[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Isn't that a bit like after-timing?

No. Aftertiming is when we pretend later to have been right, previously.

Recriminations is when we kick, very hard, in the bollocks, people who had no clue whether they were right or wrong at the time, but bullshitted us, lied, and plotted and schemed to benefit themselves as they saw fit, at the expense of the rest of us.

And as you know, I don't think there has been much of that, even from Boris the Liar.

But there will be a tribunal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tGO79BtWUI

 

[GT49er]

Or the same market would have occurred underground (its still possible despite their new fancy surveillance society) and the disease could have gone unnoticed for a longer time, causing more harm. From everything I've read China seems to be pretty keen on getting rid of these wildlife markets but they are also quite keen on avoiding them splitting in to smaller, black markets spread all over some regions. Its a pretty delicate (maybe, havent tried pangolin) problem.

Aldi's canned pangolin jalfrezi - you haven't lived till you tried it!

 

[Bakero]

I’m rather hoping that our Government will, in due course seek reparations from China.


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That could open a rather expensive can of worms, don't you think?

open goal

 

[GT49er]

No. Aftertiming is when we pretend later to have been right, previously.

Recriminations is when we kick, very hard, in the bollocks, people who had no clue whether they were right or wrong at the time, but bullshitted us, lied, and plotted and schemed to benefit themselves as they saw fit, at yhe expense of the rest of us.

And as you know, I don't think there has been much of that, even from Boris the Liar.

But there will be a tribunal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tGO79BtWUI

OK, just a bit of friendly hindsight then!

 

[Baker lite]

That could open a rather expensive can of worms, don't you think?

open goal

Possibly.


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[Bakero]

https://healthmedia.blog.gov.uk/2020/04/19/response-to-sunday-times-insight-article/

The government response to the Times article. Were such rebuttals offered pre-corona? A similar thing was done after the FT ventilator exposé.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

expensive can of worms

If price is an issue I’m sure you can buy a cheap can of worms at the Wuhan market.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

OK, just a bit of friendly hindsight then!

That's easy for you to have said.