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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Some of us are still waiting to hear what it was about the EU-wide trade deals which was so abhorrent.
Immigration: No visas for low-skilled workers, government says
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51550421
I bet there’s a lot of people in Blythe, Bolsover and Yorkshire etc sweating now. Having to fill the low-skilled worker shortage should have them voting Labour again in no time. Be careful what you wish for
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51550421
I bet there’s a lot of people in Blythe, Bolsover and Yorkshire etc sweating now. Having to fill the low-skilled worker shortage should have them voting Labour again in no time. Be careful what you wish for
Garry Nelson's teacher
Well-known member
One of the big selling points was the transition from unfettered EU immigration to the 'best and the brightest' hype. Some of us realised it was bollox at the time; some of us didn't. Some of the latter might now be changing their minds but if not let's hear a robust defence for the new system...…………...Over to you, guys.
PS I should add that just about every organisation representing businesses/employers have come out against this. Not because they are ideologically opposed but because they see the practical implications.
PS I should add that just about every organisation representing businesses/employers have come out against this. Not because they are ideologically opposed but because they see the practical implications.
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Immigration: No visas for low-skilled workers, government says
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51550421
I bet there’s a lot of people in Blythe, Bolsover and Yorkshire etc sweating now. Having to fill the low-skilled worker shortage should have them voting Labour again in no time. Be careful what you wish for
Priti Patel admits her parents would not have been allowed in under her own rules. They escaped from Uganda and set up a newsagents.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...laws-parents-home-office-brexit-a9343571.html
Mo Gosfield
Well-known member
- Aug 11, 2010
- 6,295
Immigration: No visas for low-skilled workers, government says
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51550421
I bet there’s a lot of people in Blythe, Bolsover and Yorkshire etc sweating now. Having to fill the low-skilled worker shortage should have them voting Labour again in no time. Be careful what you wish for
Until they study the leadership candidates and realise that very little is going to change. Gonna be sometime in the 2030's before Labour are likely to challenge again. Brace yourself for a three term Tory government.
As if we needed any further proof Tories are selfish *****.
She's also said this morning that there's no such thing as "dabbling in drugs" with regard to those she's tried to deport to Jamaica recently. This I'm sure has come as news to several of her cabinet colleagues who have admitted doing just that.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
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Immigration: No visas for low-skilled workers, government says
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51550421
I bet there’s a lot of people in Blythe, Bolsover and Yorkshire etc sweating now. Having to fill the low-skilled worker shortage should have them voting Labour again in no time. Be careful what you wish for
The new system has also made it effectively much much easier to emigrate here from India, Pakistan and a raft of African countries.
Skilled work also includes electricians, plumbers , plasterers etc... No exemption there.
The major change (as you state) is an attempt to force the "indigenous" unemployed working class into low paid work.
Incredible slight of hand by the government, they've used the immigration issue as an attack on the benefits system.
But I'm sure that's what people voted for.
Dick Swiveller
Well-known member
- Sep 9, 2011
- 9,165
Given that she parroted "Best & Brightest" constantly this morning, she obviously has a low opinion of her parents.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
I am sure they are very proud of her though.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,939
I think we are just starting to see how naive and inexperienced Cummings, Johnson and their devoted Brexit supporting cabinet are when it actually comes to Government and running a country (with the exception of the longest serving Minister, Liz Truss, obviously )
Johnson announcing there would be no checks on the Irish sea border and then has to get one of his ministers to admit that isn't true
Today's announcement that low skill workers won't get visas and that farming, catering and nursing should rely on 'retaining staff and developing automation technology'
Incapable of doing even the most simple of pre-employment and security checks when employing their self styled 'weirdos and misfits' in the case of Andrew Sabisky. Do you think it may now have dawned on them why Civil Service recruitment is so comprehensive ?
When they are appointing those wonderful Brexit junior ministers Suella as chief legal adviser to the Crown and Government and wheeling out Kwasi for government statements, you know they are scraping the barrel. I personally thought they were scraping the barrel when they made them Brexit Junior ministers, but there were so few Brexit supporting MPs left, that there wasn't a lot of choice.
Let's not forget that Suella, in her Brexit Junior minister post managed, through pure incompetence, to commit Britain to paying the full divorce bill with the EU whether there is a trade agreement or not, whilst Kwasi was the minister whose promotion to the cabinet was announced a day later than the rest due to the fact he had let his (one and only) phone run out of charge and couldn't be contacted on the day the cabinet was announced. Obviously top calibre people
I understand that a lot of the more 'experienced' people in Westminster have seen this coming for a while, with the exclusion of all the moderate experienced Tories from any position to scrutinise the decisions. And we haven't even started on the really important stuff yet.
Still, people knew exactly what they were voting for
)Johnson announcing there would be no checks on the Irish sea border and then has to get one of his ministers to admit that isn't true
Today's announcement that low skill workers won't get visas and that farming, catering and nursing should rely on 'retaining staff and developing automation technology'
Incapable of doing even the most simple of pre-employment and security checks when employing their self styled 'weirdos and misfits' in the case of Andrew Sabisky. Do you think it may now have dawned on them why Civil Service recruitment is so comprehensive ?
When they are appointing those wonderful Brexit junior ministers Suella as chief legal adviser to the Crown and Government and wheeling out Kwasi for government statements, you know they are scraping the barrel. I personally thought they were scraping the barrel when they made them Brexit Junior ministers, but there were so few Brexit supporting MPs left, that there wasn't a lot of choice.
Let's not forget that Suella, in her Brexit Junior minister post managed, through pure incompetence, to commit Britain to paying the full divorce bill with the EU whether there is a trade agreement or not, whilst Kwasi was the minister whose promotion to the cabinet was announced a day later than the rest due to the fact he had let his (one and only) phone run out of charge and couldn't be contacted on the day the cabinet was announced. Obviously top calibre people
I understand that a lot of the more 'experienced' people in Westminster have seen this coming for a while, with the exclusion of all the moderate experienced Tories from any position to scrutinise the decisions. And we haven't even started on the really important stuff yet.
Still, people knew exactly what they were voting for
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Dick Swiveller
Well-known member
- Sep 9, 2011
- 9,165
I did wonder about that - I don't normally watch too much news stuff but caught the end of her on Breakfast this morning and she kept saying there were x millions of people who were not "economically active".
Mo Gosfield
Well-known member
- Aug 11, 2010
- 6,295
Surely nobody could find them abhorrent?
We have been part of a protectionist bloc, looking after the interests of its members and operating some stringent tariffs to blockade other global suitors. We now have to stand alone, offering a market place of 65m as opposed to 500m. Still attractive, due to our spending potential per head but lacking the clout of the EU.
Expect a renewal of historical ties with Australia and New Zealand, who previously exported huge amounts of dairy and meat to the UK, as well as much better deals on their wines. Generally, a lot of imports will still come from Europe, as our position in services continues to grow and our financial sector booms as move towards a ' Singapore-On-Thames' style of economy, fast moving and service driven.
Mo Gosfield
Well-known member
- Aug 11, 2010
- 6,295
I think we are just starting to see how naive and inexperienced Cummings, Johnson and their devoted Brexit supporting cabinet are when it actually comes to Government (with the exception of the longest serving Minister, Liz Truss, obviously
Johnson announcing there would be no checks on the Irish sea border and then has to get one of his ministers to admit that isn't true
Today's announcement that low skill workers won't get visas and farming, catering and nursing should rely on 'retaining staff and developing automation technology'
Incapable of doing even the most simple of pre-employment and security checks in the case of Andrew Sabisky
When they are appointing those wonderful Brexit junior ministers Suella as chief legal adviser to the Crown and Government and wheeling out Kwasi for government statements, you know they are scraping the barrel. I personally thought they were scraping the barrel when they made them Junior ministers, but there were so few Brexit supporting MPs left to choose from, that there wasn't a lot of choice.
Let's not forget that Suella, in her Brexit Junior minister post managed, through pure incompetence, to commit Britain to paying the full divorce bill with the EU whether there is a trade agreement or not, whilst Kwasi was the minister whose promotion to the cabinet was announced a day later than the rest due to the fact he had let his (one and only) phone run out of charge and couldn't be contacted on the day the cabinet was announced. Obviously top calibre people
I understand that a lot of the more 'experienced' people in Westminster have seen this coming for a while, with the exclusion of all the moderate experienced Tories from any position to scrutinise the decisions. And we haven't even started on the really important stuff.
Still, people knew exactly what they were voting for
Yes....three terms of Tory government.
nwgull
Well-known member
I think we are just starting to see how naive and inexperienced Cummings, Johnson and their devoted Brexit supporting cabinet are when it actually comes to Government and running a country (with the exception of the longest serving Minister, Liz Truss, obviously
Johnson announcing there would be no checks on the Irish sea border and then has to get one of his ministers to admit that isn't true
Today's announcement that low skill workers won't get visas and that farming, catering and nursing should rely on 'retaining staff and developing automation technology'
Incapable of doing even the most simple of pre-employment and security checks when employing their self styled 'weirdos and misfits' in the case of Andrew Sabisky
When they are appointing those wonderful Brexit junior ministers Suella as chief legal adviser to the Crown and Government and wheeling out Kwasi for government statements, you know they are scraping the barrel. I personally thought they were scraping the barrel when they made them Junior ministers, but there were so few Brexit supporting MPs left to choose from, that there wasn't a lot of choice.
Let's not forget that Suella, in her Brexit Junior minister post managed, through pure incompetence, to commit Britain to paying the full divorce bill with the EU whether there is a trade agreement or not, whilst Kwasi was the minister whose promotion to the cabinet was announced a day later than the rest due to the fact he had let his (one and only) phone run out of charge and couldn't be contacted on the day the cabinet was announced. Obviously top calibre people
I understand that a lot of the more 'experienced' people in Westminster have seen this coming for a while, with the exclusion of all the moderate experienced Tories from any position to scrutinise the decisions. And we haven't even started on the really important stuff.
Still, people knew exactly what they were voting for
I was not aware of that. So we've basically given away a 30 billion pound bargaining chip that was possibly the only significant benefit of a no-deal scenario?
Dick Swiveller
Well-known member
- Sep 9, 2011
- 9,165
It was a stock answer to avoid the question about filling vital jobs with people that don't meet the criteria. She kept on about changing the point balance but would never answer the question about those that would never meet the points criteria. When asked about care workers specifically, she said she didn't count that as unskilled labour. Which is irrelevant as it won't meet the £25k threshold. Just another parroted phrase to add to Oven Ready, Strong & Stable and whatever guff Corbyn kept repeating. You could literally create bots to give the answers you get out of politicians these days. Just get the spin doctors/advisers to programme in the buzz phrases of the week and let them loose. Let me be quite clear and reflect on the point you just made.