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[News] Alistair stewart



Cowfold Seagull

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Apr 22, 2009
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Why on earth did he even bother with a Twitter account ?

No good comes of anti-social media if you are in the public eye.

He should have had a professional run his account for him if he really had to have one.


As for the tweet ? Absolute nonsense to suggest any racism.

Absolutely this, as l said earlier, one slip with a tweet and you are done for, you can't expunge it or take back what you have said.
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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he's best off out of it, retire, or do a programme about history of Shakespeare and its relevance to modern day on C5.
 


daveinplzen

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Aug 31, 2018
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Our racism expert, who believes white people abusing other white people is racism will be able to clear this up.
@Baker-lite, whats your take on this?
 


A1X

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Oh good here we go again...
 


Bold Seagull

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Still dont get what part is potentially offensive or a misjudgement :shrug:

Of course you should be able to, it's liberal PC madness that quoting Shakespeare and having done so before (with a white man) is now deemed racist because it's distorted out of context.

Anybody who differentiates with intent against any person because of skin colour, should rightly be called out and severely sanctioned. Quoting Shakespeare is not racism, it's playing the race card, which is so often used as a weapon of choice by Liberal society. Brexiteers are all racists, those critical of Meghan Markle are just racist. I'm sure most brexiteers or anti royalists are not racist and would always stand against real prejudice.

Would Sir David Attenborough be a racist if he mentioned apes (in the context to his programme) to a person who was not of white skin colour?

If Alistair Stewart was using a Shakespearean reference he'd used before without any context to another humans skin (as he suggests) he should stand his ground when that's thrown back as rasicm.

The quote was used and intended by AS as a put down, the character in the play is saying the judge or sheriff or whatever is a small minded ignorant fool who is just reveling in their small bit of power. The misjudgement in quoting that passage is that the character compares the judge to an ape. Now if racism didn't exist we could no doubt compare anyone we wanted to an ape because they are a creature with certain habits and characteristics that can be likened to many human beings of any race you care to mentioned. However we are in a society where racism exists, so the misjudgement is not having the forethought to imagine that the quote in a certain context could be misconstrued.

So David Attenborough can quite happily talk about apes to persons of any colour or race, however if he used the comparison to an ape to form an insult, then I'd imagine even Sir David would find himself in the dock - not that I imagine Sir D would ever find himself in such a predicament.
 




Blue Valkyrie

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Have they put his head on the spike next to the one with Danny Baker's on it ?
 




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I'd take offence if anyone so far up themselves they tried to prove their point by resorting to quoting the poor man's Barbara Cartland.
 






Baker lite

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It is a concern for Me that when people here the word “ ape” It is associated with a Person from a BAME background. What logical, right thinking person would make this association?
It is great shame this respected journalist has to lose his job, it says more about the people that make this abhorrent association than Alistair himself.
 






Baker lite

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Our racism expert, who believes white people abusing other white people is racism will be able to clear this up.
@Baker-lite, whats your take on this?

David, we have had this discussion on another thread haven’t we?
A white person insulting another white person is not the crux of my argument, as well you know, however, when an insult is levelled at someone because of the colour of their skin, that, in my opinion is.
You have a good day David.
 


daveinplzen

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Aug 31, 2018
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David, we have had this discussion on another thread haven’t we?
A white person insulting another white person is not the crux of my argument, as well you know, however, when an insult is levelled at someone because of the colour of their skin, that, in my opinion is.
You have a good day David.

I see, so racism can exist between two people of the same race. Thanks.
 






peterward

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The constant howl of outrage is verging on a modern day form of McCarthyism now

Its western Liberal group think. The secret thought police. You cannot hold a contrary opinion.

If we think we need to change the word Christmas to winter or seasons for fear of offence, it's not your place to question only to comply.

If we say criticism of Meghan Markle is just racism, bow your knee or take the backlash
 


Bold Seagull

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Its western Liberal group think. The secret thought police. You cannot hold a contrary opinion.

If we think we need to change the word Christmas to winter or seasons for fear of offence, it's not your place to question only to comply.

If we say criticism of Meghan Markle is just racism, bow your knee or take the backlash

Oxymoron.
 








RossyG

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Dec 20, 2014
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Once again a huge company kowtows to the usual scum who weaponise offence on Twitter.

A few thousand inadequates can destroy careers and lives, but only because these companies listen to them. If ITN had ignored them then it would’ve blown over in days. Ditto the Danny Baker incident.
 




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