[TV] Derek Acorah RIP.

[Murray 17]

That's what I love about NSC. People dismissing other people's beliefs, because they don't agree with them.

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[BadFish]

Can't wait for his new series to come out.

 

[The Wizard]

That's what I love about NSC. People dismissing other people's beliefs, because they don't agree with them.

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Define ‘Beliefs’

 

[Murray 17]

Define ‘Beliefs’

I know several people who have had some sort of interaction with people who have died. People sitting at the end of their bed, being the most common. My grandfather's parents owned a restaurant in Brighton, and his stepfather was a violent man who would throw plates etc at his mother. Many years later there was an article in the Argus about plates flying across the room of a house (the restaurant had been converted). My grandfather wrote in to explain this.

Not everything can be explained by science.

It also annoys me how people on here dismiss other people's religious beliefs. I understand that many people are non-believers, but respect those that have a faith. Accept that others see things differently.

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[Guinness Boy]

I know several people who have had some sort of interaction with people who have died. People sitting at the end of their bed, being the most common. My grandfather's parents owned a restaurant in Brighton, and his stepfather was a violent man who would throw plates etc at his mother. Many years later there was an article in the Argus about plates flying across the room of a house (the restaurant had been converted). My grandfather wrote in to explain this.

Not everything can be explained by science.

It also annoys me how people on here dismiss other people's religious beliefs. I understand that many people are non-believers, but respect those that have a faith. Accept that others see things differently.

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Want to buy some magic beans. They're only, erm....

*checks Heinz website*

...only £120. Each.

 

[Murray 17]

Want to buy some magic beans. They're only, erm....

*checks Heinz website*

...only £120. Each.

I'd expect that kind of response from you.

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[boik]

I know several people who have had some sort of interaction with people who have died. People sitting at the end of their bed, being the most common. My grandfather's parents owned a restaurant in Brighton, and his stepfather was a violent man who would throw plates etc at his mother. Many years later there was an article in the Argus about plates flying across the room of a house (the restaurant had been converted). My grandfather wrote in to explain this.

Not everything can be explained by science.

It also annoys me how people on here dismiss other people's religious beliefs. I understand that many people are non-believers, but respect those that have a faith. Accept that others see things differently.

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Hmmm. Difficult to answer someone who says not everything can be explained by science. Of course it can, but not all of science has been discovered yet.

Mediums have been debunked thousands of times. Harry Houdini devoted the latter part of his life to it. No evidence has ever been found to support it, but thousands have been shown to be fraudulent.

People can, and will believe whatever they like, but just because someone believes it, it doesn't make it true. Some people are susceptible to believing things and are desperate to find things, especially in grief. People that make money out of these are scum.

 

[The Wizard]

I know several people who have had some sort of interaction with people who have died. People sitting at the end of their bed, being the most common. My grandfather's parents owned a restaurant in Brighton, and his stepfather was a violent man who would throw plates etc at his mother. Many years later there was an article in the Argus about plates flying across the room of a house (the restaurant had been converted). My grandfather wrote in to explain this.

Not everything can be explained by science.

It also annoys me how people on here dismiss other people's religious beliefs. I understand that many people are non-believers, but respect those that have a faith. Accept that others see things differently.

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Much as I respect where you are coming from in that everyome is entitled to their beliefs, what this man did was fleece people for money and fool people, even if you believe in mediums and the like it’s patently obvious this man made a career out of conning people, many of whom are at a very vulnerable point in their lives having just lost loved ones, it may provide comfort to some but that doesn’t make it right.

 

[portlock seagull]

I know several people who have had some sort of interaction with people who have died. People sitting at the end of their bed, being the most common. My grandfather's parents owned a restaurant in Brighton, and his stepfather was a violent man who would throw plates etc at his mother. Many years later there was an article in the Argus about plates flying across the room of a house (the restaurant had been converted). My grandfather wrote in to explain this.

Not everything can be explained by science.

It also annoys me how people on here dismiss other people's religious beliefs. I understand that many people are non-believers, but respect those that have a faith. Accept that others see things differently.

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It’s not beliefs though is it if it’s complete fiction. I mean, how can you take someone seriously that believes Middle Earth exists which is precisely the same as you saying plate throwing deceased Greeks haunt a converted restaurant? It’s just utter bollocks. It’s not a creditable belief when zero creditable evidence exists. At least when it comes to religion Mohammed DID exist and there’s much historical evidence that a man called Jesus did also. So far I’ve not seen anything creditable about a ghost. Anywhere. In the world. Nor did Derek for that matter and he was a ‘professional’

 

[Russconha]

 

[portlock seagull]

I mean, I had to stop that after 20secs it’s so cringeworthy. He definitely had issues, mental disorder of some description to think he could convince people, even himself, that ‘Mary loves Cock’ or whatever balderdash he did each week. Fair enough if you’re doing it for entertainment purposes but when you cross the line into pretending it’s real...weird, just weird!

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

I mean, I had to stop that after 20secs it’s so cringeworthy. He definitely had issues, mental disorder of some description to think he could convince people, even himself, that ‘Mary loves Cock’ or whatever balderdash he did each week. Fair enough if you’re doing it for entertainment purposes but when you cross the line into pretending it’s real...weird, just weird!

Perhaps Mary did like dick.

 

[Stat Brother]

I'd expect that kind of response from you.

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I think you got off lightly.

 

[Wilko]

I realise that he was a real person and has a greiving family, but he and all so called clairvoyants should be prosecuted for fraud. Conning money out of vulnerable people by false pretenses.

They also severely hamper the grieving process, convincing the bereaved that their loved one is still somehow still around, leaving them in a weird limbo where they can’t move on with their lives. This can lead to the expensive obsession of regular seances, events that are wrong on every level.

Fake mediums - and all mediums are fake - are despicable people, really.

He’s my wife’s friend’s cousin.

The family are waiting for a message to make sure he’s arrived on the other side. Staying positive, that’s the spirit!

The guy made a lot of money out of talking bollocks.

All of this. It is horrific that people can take money from grieving individuals by telling them they can talk to their loved ones. It should be a crime.

 

[Swansman]

Thought it was some Ghanian footballer when I saw the topic. Luckily it wasn't.

On the topic of ghosts, communicating with the dead etc... who knows. Humans are nothing in the seemingly endless universe. We know nothing. Our minds and senses are very limited. Try to imagine a colour that doesn't exist. It's impossible, but that doesn't mean there aren't any other colours in the whole universe. Same could be with ghosts or whatever - for all we know there could be living dead everywhere all the time, we just can't see or measure their presence.

It's sort of like with atheism (And I say this as an agnostic), stating it as a fact that there is no God is every bit as fundamentalists as saying there is one. It's a fat ****ing self-overevaluation to think we know jack shit about the mechanisms of the universe.

 

[Razzoo]

Thought it was some Ghanian footballer when I saw the topic. Luckily it wasn't.

On the topic of ghosts, communicating with the dead etc... who knows. Humans are nothing in the seemingly endless universe. We know nothing. Our minds and senses are very limited. Try to imagine a colour that doesn't exist. It's impossible, but that doesn't mean there aren't any other colours in the whole universe. Same could be with ghosts or whatever - for all we know there could be living dead everywhere all the time, we just can't see or measure their presence.

It's sort of like with atheism (And I say this as an agnostic), stating it as a fact that there is no God is every bit as fundamentalists as saying there is one. It's a fat ****ing self-overevaluation to think we know jack shit about the mechanisms of the universe.

I get what you are saying but this thread is mainly pouring scorn on the charlatans who claim they do have the gift of communication with the "other side".

 

[boik]

Thought it was some Ghanian footballer when I saw the topic. Luckily it wasn't.

On the topic of ghosts, communicating with the dead etc... who knows. Humans are nothing in the seemingly endless universe. We know nothing. Our minds and senses are very limited. Try to imagine a colour that doesn't exist. It's impossible, but that doesn't mean there aren't any other colours in the whole universe. Same could be with ghosts or whatever - for all we know there could be living dead everywhere all the time, we just can't see or measure their presence.

It's sort of like with atheism (And I say this as an agnostic), stating it as a fact that there is no God is every bit as fundamentalists as saying there is one. It's a fat ****ing self-overevaluation to think we know jack shit about the mechanisms of the universe.

Whilst I agree that we don't yet know everything about the universe, I'm not having that some dead people can talk to some self selected living people, but have no way of providing evidence from beyond the grave. There have been absolute geniuses that have died, and yet they can speak, but cant work out how to provide evidence? Not gonna be happening is it?

These people are charlatans. You've only got to watch them fishing around an audience with vague questions hoping to home in on someone desperate enough to believe it applies to them.

 

[Swansman]

I get what you are saying but this thread is mainly pouring scorn on the charlatans who claim they do have the gift of communication with the "other side".

Yea I agree that most if not all mediums are very likely bullshitters.

 

[boik]

I could do with a clairvoyant to try and find out when the next southbound train might appear! 3 been cancelled so far. Gonna miss the start of the match. Grrrrrrr.

 

[Ludensian Gull]

Mary loves Dick

The Mrs has just shown me that clip on YouTube .