[Help] How many are the Tories going to win by?

[crodonilson]

Rumours Boris is in big trouble in his own constituency.

 

[BN41Albion]

Either outcome will not be good for this country tonight, imho. In hindsight, we were far more centrist and moderate from 1997 to 2016. I preferred that in every way. Then political zealots with a blinkered take on everything, somehow managed over a period, to take control of both main parties. Not a uniquely UK thing, citing the rise of Trump.

Around the world, too. The world has become far more polarised since the crash

 

[swindonseagull]

Rumours Boris is in big trouble in his own constituency.

Rumours rumours Rumours.

 

[Driver8]

Rumours rumours Rumours.

That would be ****ing funny though.

 

[swindonseagull]

That would be ****ing funny though.

They have already got a plan......an MP from a safe seat will be moved to the Lords and Boris would take over the safe seat with a by election next month...

 

[Guinness Boy]

They have already got a plan......an MP from a safe seat will be moved to the Lords and Boris would take over the safe seat with a by election next month...

This is all ifs of course. But IF he lost his seat, And IF they did this. I'd love to see all the other parties pull out and unite behind a single independant "anyone but Boris" candidate. A bit like Martin Bell in Tatton. That would probably be funnier than the racist bellend losing Uxbridge in the first place.

 

[BensGrandad]

I didnt think that the PM had to be an MP I am sure I vaguely remember a Tory PM who wasnt.

 

[Hugo Rune]

I didnt think that the PM had to be an MP I am sure I vaguely remember a Tory PM who wasnt.

You can be a lord. They’d simply give the **** a peerage?

Riots would ensue though.

 

[vegster]

More than capital flight ? Unfortunately not. It’s fine to squeeze the rich in theory but let’s not pretend capital won’t leave the country. This just needs to be weighed against the current inequality. I would prefer that Labour were honest that there will be a smaller pie to share around. They would get my vote but I suspect not many others so instead there is the pretense that the super rich will somehow pay up.

Plenty has left already and will continue to do so whatever government is in power. It either goes steadily outwards or there will be a panic to try to move it if labour get in. I work for a company that trades on the high street across the whole of the UK plus some EU countries and Australia and the two founders, based in the tax haven of Guernsey, are sitting on a cool £1.5 bn ….. they are not going to abandon the UK if labour get in, as they have created a money making machine... it will just work a little slower with labour in office.

 

[Weststander]

Rumours Boris is in big trouble in his own constituency.

Bet365 will still give you 5/2 on Boris being ousted by Labour in Uxbridge.

2/7 on Boris winning.

A fortune to be made by the lucky person with that inside knowledge.

 

[Guinness Boy]

You can be a lord. They’d simply give the **** a peerage?

Riots would ensue though.

Again if......

But if they tried that I'm not sure how they could play "getting Brexit done" as democracy when that would be the single most undemocratic act in this country since universal suffrage.

I'd wager a small amount that there would be a swift leadership election and we might end up with someone worse. Raab (mind you, not a shoe in to retain his seat)? Hunt? Gove? I presume (but don't know) that the government positions were effectively cancelled when parliament broke up for the campaign and therefore there would be no automatic deputy?

 

[pb21]

This is all ifs of course. But IF he lost his seat, And IF they did this. I'd love to see all the other parties pull out and unite behind a single independant "anyone but Boris" candidate. A bit like Martin Bell in Tatton. That would probably be funnier than the racist bellend losing Uxbridge in the first place.

There are plenty of tory seats where the tory vote is well above 50%. That could happen and he would still get 70% of the vote!

 

[Hugo Rune]

Raab & IBS double loss now at 11/4. Very pleased with the 13/2 I got but I’ll be even more pleased if two of the nastiest, vilest leave fanatics are kicked out!

 

[vegster]

Laura K’s comment certainly suggested someone knew something.

A bit like when Laura said " A senior Conservative source has told us an aide to Matt Hancock has been punched in the face by a Labour activist at Leeds general infirmary " How did that one turn out ?

 

[Bry Nylon]

I didnt think that the PM had to be an MP I am sure I vaguely remember a Tory PM who wasnt.

Constitionally, they don't. (They don't even have to be a Lord). But politically it would completely untenable for a PM not to be a serving MP

 

[Weststander]

Plenty has left already and will continue to do so whatever government is in power. It either goes steadily outwards or there will be a panic to try to move it if labour get in. I work for a company that trades on the high street across the whole of the UK plus some EU countries and Australia and the two founders, based in the tax haven of Guernsey, are sitting on a cool £1.5 bn ….. they are not going to abandon the UK if labour get in, as they have created a money making machine... it will just work a little slower with labour in office.

But won’t more companies and entrepreneurs, who do currently pay the full whack of UK company and personal taxes, take the lead of those founders, by basing their operations and/or personal tax arrangements in a lower taxes regime?

The evidence is, that they do. When Hollande was elected in 2012 on a socialist ticket with high tax rates, we gained the business of countless French business people who moved or ‘moved’ to the UK. Some took residence here, but commuted to NE France for part of the week to run their business affairs.

 

[vegster]

Bet365 will still give you 5/2 on Boris being ousted by Labour in Uxbridge.

2/7 on Boris winning.

A fortune to be made by the lucky person with that inside knowledge.

It will never match the fortune made by the " lucky " person who bet on Harry Redknapp going back to Portsmouth after leaving Stains.

 

[Guinness Boy]

There are plenty of tory seats where the tory vote is well above 50%. That could happen and he would still get 70% of the vote!

That's why I said "Tatton". Neil Hamilton had a majority of over 22,000. Martin Bell beat him by 11,000. That's a 33k swing. In the situation outlined in the post I replied to it would simply be Boris v The Rest with no fridges to hide in.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Bet365 will still give you 5/2 on Boris being ousted by Labour in Uxbridge.

2/7 on Boris winning.

A fortune to be made by the lucky person with that inside knowledge.

60/1 labour
4/1 hung parliament

 

[Weststander]

It will never match the fortune made by the " lucky " person who bet on Harry Redknapp going back to Portsmouth after leaving Stains.

How much did that lucky person make?