A very divided country to say the least. And if Leave does not happen it will only be worse.
From a confirmed remainer.
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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A very divided country to say the least. And if Leave does not happen it will only be worse.
From a confirmed remainer.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
Why not? We have had 3 years of Leave fantasists, I am going to indulge in a little remainer Fantasy with you for a day or two. If we just believe in it, it will happen.
Do not mislead madam. Parliament will get back to the business of running the UK. Government will be doing the deal making.
From a confirmed remainer.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 26,089
Well I certainly hope Albion win 5-0 Saturday
From a confirmed Aston Villa supporter
Baldseagull
Well-known member
I think you should look to the things Tory Governments have opposed at the EU and lost on, might give a clue as to the things they would want to not have after we leave. Working Time Directive was one, even taking the EU to court over it, despite legal advice that they would lose. Quite a few environmental regulations have been opposed too. I think they will find it hard to roll anything back soon, but in time they will use unemployment figures to suggest that employers are not hiring because of the burden of workers rights.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Dominic Raab has announced this is a cracking deal for Northern Ireland business because they'll have their usual UK market access AND seamless access to the EU SIngle Market.
They won't have ful access to the Single Market and they'll be required to pay some EU tariffs. Sammy Wilson of the DUP has just confirmed this as being a reason they don't like the Deal.
It is incredible a senior Cabinet Minister has misunderstood the Withdrawal Agreement this badly. The Single Market and the Customs Union are two different things. Anyway, he's just described as "a cracking deal" the status quo we have now in the UK. The implication is that the rest of the UK won't have as good an arrangement, thereby confirming Remainer fears that tge rest of us in the UK are about to become worse off.
They won't have ful access to the Single Market and they'll be required to pay some EU tariffs. Sammy Wilson of the DUP has just confirmed this as being a reason they don't like the Deal.
It is incredible a senior Cabinet Minister has misunderstood the Withdrawal Agreement this badly. The Single Market and the Customs Union are two different things. Anyway, he's just described as "a cracking deal" the status quo we have now in the UK. The implication is that the rest of the UK won't have as good an arrangement, thereby confirming Remainer fears that tge rest of us in the UK are about to become worse off.
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mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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From Leave.EU
"This has been a long WAR, and there are still many BATTLES to come.
This deal is not perfect, far from it. But we now have the opportunity to get out of the European Union and PUNISH all those who have frustrated the referendum result at the ballot box. Phase 1 is complete"
****ing idiots
"This has been a long WAR, and there are still many BATTLES to come.
This deal is not perfect, far from it. But we now have the opportunity to get out of the European Union and PUNISH all those who have frustrated the referendum result at the ballot box. Phase 1 is complete"
****ing idiots
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
What battles are to come, though ? Clauses in the FTA ? Once we are out, will we have a referendum on joining Schengen ?
There is, in fact, nothing for them to do.
Or do they want to chisel another country out of the EU ?
Is breaking up the UK the sinister phase 2 ?
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What part of 'Remain' are you confirmed about?
Mellor 3 Ward 4
Well-known member
How many Labour MPs will vote for the deal?
So they won't lose the whip, just sacked at the next election instead.....
Johnson's deal will be a wrecking ball through the lives & well-being of ordinary people across Britain. Labour MPs cannot and must not vote for it. If they do, the NEC will have no choice but to replace them with a new, socialist Labour candidate at the next election
jon lansman
So they won't lose the whip, just sacked at the next election instead.....
Johnson's deal will be a wrecking ball through the lives & well-being of ordinary people across Britain. Labour MPs cannot and must not vote for it. If they do, the NEC will have no choice but to replace them with a new, socialist Labour candidate at the next election
jon lansman
Pavilionaire
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
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A trade expert - Sam Lowe of the Centre For European Reform - has just described Northern Ireland's relationship under Boris's Deal as being slightly better with the EU than Switzerland presently has.
He said "Worse for NI than remaining in the EU? Yes. But does NI end up with a better relationship with the EU than the rest of the UK? Yes.
He then flagged up SNP opposition to NI's closer relationship with EU whilst denying that same opportunity to Scotland, the implication being it is clearly inequitable.
I think one big difference between May's Deal and Boris's Deal is that the UK Union comes under much greater threat now.
He said "Worse for NI than remaining in the EU? Yes. But does NI end up with a better relationship with the EU than the rest of the UK? Yes.
He then flagged up SNP opposition to NI's closer relationship with EU whilst denying that same opportunity to Scotland, the implication being it is clearly inequitable.
I think one big difference between May's Deal and Boris's Deal is that the UK Union comes under much greater threat now.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Raab is as thick as shit
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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a number of Labour MPs who are sitting in leave supporting seats may take their chances with their local CLP. does the NEC control candidate selection? not sure Lansman's comments will be universally approved with in the party.
Won't stop the Conservative and Unionist Party voting for it though....
You are simply incorrect. Government AND parliament are gonna be balls deep in this swill for decades.
And if you voted remain I’m a Happy Meal.
As I mentioned yesterday, this is just a giant extension in everything but name.
That Remain was the best choice in the referendum. Which is how I voted.
But now, for the sake of UK national unity, leaving is the least worst option.
dingodan
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- Feb 16, 2011
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More Labour MPs will be sacked for voting for the deal than will be sacked for voting against it.
70% of Labour constituencies voted to leave.