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[Albion] Knockaert joins Fulham on initial one-year loan



OzMike

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Oct 2, 2006
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Perth Australia
I was never convinced Knocky could make it in the top league, he has struggled, yes some brilliance but mainly quite a struggle and he left Leicester once promoted.

He is only on form when playing a team on top of their game but not in the Premier League and also I think he looks at time petulant, probably disruptive and high maintenance.

However we did see him in his prime and it was was superb and a real treat but this is the Premier League that takes no prisoners.

I can see this, but still thought it would be worth a season with the new bloke and a thorough explanation of what was required before moving him on.
 








Albumen

Don't wait for me!
Jan 19, 2010
11,495
Brighton - In your face
I'm sad to see him go as he was always a buzz to watch and didn't hide from having a go.

However, having watched him often moan and groan at his colleagues on the pitch, throw his arms up and bitch at them I'm not convinced his team mates will be sad to see him go.

Chalking this one up to moved on for reasons of team unity and #together (which totally fell apart at times last season).

Fully expect him to be a success at Fulham but maybe he is one of those players that needs to move on every 2-3 seasons.

Add to this, from what I’ve seen Potter like free flowing quick thinking football (if it works), and AK does hold onto it too long often. It suited CH. lots of assumptions I know.
 


Couldn't Be Hyypia

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Nov 12, 2006
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If something emerges over the next few days which makes it clear the club had no real choice but to let him go, fair enough. But even then the deal itself is a terrible one. Possibly £10m next year when the squad needs strengthening now?

I didn't realise that we weren't allowed to spend unless we get the funds from selling AK. Let's hope there could be funds available from other sources such as a broadcaster or a wealthy chairman, or were screwed.
 




Dolph Ins

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May 26, 2014
1,525
Mid Sussex
The club has proved time and again that money is not their motivator, so that leaves only that either Knocky wanted to go or the club wanted him out.

Thanks for the memories.
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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Potter saying it’s a good move for player and club as we are well covered in wide positions. I am genuinely staggered that we couldn’t/chose not to negotiate a hefty transfer fee. We seem to have just moved a player on to save wages. Maybe someone can explain the logic to me. It’s not like Fulham don’t have money. On the surface it looks like a truly dreadful bit of business.

To quote Buffalo Springfield.

There’s something going on around here, what it is ain’t exactly clear.
 




Mo Gosfield

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Aug 11, 2010
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I can see this, but still thought it would be worth a season with the new bloke and a thorough explanation of what was required before moving him on.

He proved in the last two seasons that he was unable to adapt his style to the demands of the PL. He was given plenty of opportunity. He cannot cut basic and costly errors out of his game and at times, his temperament has cost us dear.
We all saw what he is capable of at Championship level. Some fans expected this to be replicated at the highest level, not fully understanding the different demands required. They have clung to occasional moments of brilliance and cited these as his potential but in truth, thats all they are, flashes, moments. He needed to show more consistency than this. His own frustration at not being able to reproduce his Championship flair has led to a lot of flouncing, hissy fitting, diving and blaming teammates to try and justify his place.
For him to produce his best, he needs to be comfortable and he will feel more on top of his game, at the lower level, with Fulham.
The signs are already there that we are trying to be more attacking with Potter. Playing further up the field, you cannot afford to give the ball away, under no pressure, when you are stretched.
Its an inevitable move, given his wages as well. I hope he does well and if we get relegated, he could come back and star again in the Championship. ( Or conversely, stay with Fulham in the PL and start the ..." is he/isn't he good enough "... argument all over again )
 


Horses Arse

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Jun 25, 2004
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You seriously think that IF there was a problem with AK the club are going to tell everybody? There are almost THREE WEEKS left in this transfer window-what do you think happens at this time of year? The Albion wait until the last minute to start looking for suitable players? I'm pretty sure that work has been taking place to strengthen the team/squad and the new Albion don't let the world know until it is a done deal. Or close to a done deal.

You say that this deal is a terrible one-what would have made it a good one in your eyes?

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Of course they've been looking. Means nothing though. You dont sell until you're certain. Not sure what they are certain about with the knockhaert departure.

Why not make fulham sweat and wait until the end of the window.

Must be that Potter didn't want him and wasnt going to use him and I see that as very short sighted. January sale with things going ok then yes, not now.

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Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
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Eastbourne
He proved in the last two seasons that he was unable to adapt his style to the demands of the PL. He was given plenty of opportunity. He cannot cut basic and costly errors out of his game and at times, his temperament has cost us dear.
We all saw what he is capable of at Championship level. Some fans expected this to be replicated at the highest level, not fully understanding the different demands required. They have clung to occasional moments of brilliance and cited these as his potential but in truth, thats all they are, flashes, moments. He needed to show more consistency than this. His own frustration at not being able to reproduce his Championship flair has led to a lot of flouncing, hissy fitting, diving and blaming teammates to try and justify his place.
For him to produce his best, he needs to be comfortable and he will feel more on top of his game, at the lower level, with Fulham.
The signs are already there that we are trying to be more attacking with Potter. Playing further up the field, you cannot afford to give the ball away, under no pressure, when you are stretched.
Its an inevitable move, given his wages as well. I hope he does well and if we get relegated, he could come back and star again in the Championship. ( Or conversely, stay with Fulham in the PL and start the ..." is he/isn't he good enough "... argument all over again )

You could level that criticism at ALL of our attacking players with the exception of Murray. AK played better than the rest, perhaps let's start over and get rid of them all.
 




Gritt23

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Jul 7, 2003
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Meopham, Kent.
Potter saying it’s a good move for player and club as we are well covered in wide positions. I am genuinely staggered that we couldn’t/chose not to negotiate a hefty transfer fee. We seem to have just moved a player on to save wages. Maybe someone can explain the logic to me. It’s not like Fulham don’t have money. On the surface it looks like a truly dreadful bit of business.

To quote Buffalo Springfield.

There’s something going on around here, what it is ain’t exactly clear.

Nope, you won't get a decent explanation from me as I'm baffled.

I keep hearing that we have moved CH on, and GP in because we are going to see more attacking, exciting football. And we've immediately moved on the most exciting Brighton player I've seen since those early, heady days of Lua Lua coming in on loan. Yes, he's not got the same influence in this division as he had in the Championship, but really not even worth a season with Potter to see what he can get from him? If he doesn't think he can get a tune out of Knocky, but feels we are "well covered"in that area, so leaves himself the task of getting a tune out of Ali J and Locadia, then, I'm really struggling with this one.

It's not even as if we've had an offer we can't refuse, or waved Knocky under their nose as part of a deal to get Cairney, Sessegnon, or even Mitrovic. We just seem to have off-loaded him in to the first team that has come asking. A new exciting, more attacking future, has got off to a very odd start for me.
 
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BN9 BHA

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Jul 14, 2013
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Someone posted this on Twitter. Nicely sums up how ridiculous this deal is:

Brighton's Anthony Knockaert has joined Fulham on loan. The Frenchman, who had more assists last year than Wilfried Zaha, Dele Alli and Gerard Deulofeu was no longer needed at free-scoring, chance-a-minute Brighton, who also didn't require a transfer fee #bhafc #ffc https://t.co/rSxAzpjHQh

:lolol:
Please, please tell me you didn't see it was posted by a parody account?
 


Gritt23

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Jul 7, 2003
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He proved in the last two seasons that he was unable to adapt his style to the demands of the PL. He was given plenty of opportunity. He cannot cut basic and costly errors out of his game and at times, his temperament has cost us dear.
We all saw what he is capable of at Championship level. Some fans expected this to be replicated at the highest level, not fully understanding the different demands required. They have clung to occasional moments of brilliance and cited these as his potential but in truth, thats all they are, flashes, moments. He needed to show more consistency than this. His own frustration at not being able to reproduce his Championship flair has led to a lot of flouncing, hissy fitting, diving and blaming teammates to try and justify his place.
For him to produce his best, he needs to be comfortable and he will feel more on top of his game, at the lower level, with Fulham.
The signs are already there that we are trying to be more attacking with Potter. Playing further up the field, you cannot afford to give the ball away, under no pressure, when you are stretched.
Its an inevitable move, given his wages as well. I hope he does well and if we get relegated, he could come back and star again in the Championship. ( Or conversely, stay with Fulham in the PL and start the ..." is he/isn't he good enough "... argument all over again )

But we seem to have off loaded him preferring to keep players who haven't even shown us the "occasional moments of brilliance" that we've had from Knocky.

If we are moving him on because of his "wages" then we really are not competing at all at this level in terms of wage structure.
 






Johnny RoastBeef

These aren't the players you're looking for.
Jan 11, 2016
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He proved in the last two seasons that he was unable to adapt his style to the demands of the PL. He was given plenty of opportunity. He cannot cut basic and costly errors out of his game and at times, his temperament has cost us dear.
We all saw what he is capable of at Championship level. Some fans expected this to be replicated at the highest level, not fully understanding the different demands required. They have clung to occasional moments of brilliance and cited these as his potential but in truth, thats all they are, flashes, moments. He needed to show more consistency than this. His own frustration at not being able to reproduce his Championship flair has led to a lot of flouncing, hissy fitting, diving and blaming teammates to try and justify his place.
For him to produce his best, he needs to be comfortable and he will feel more on top of his game, at the lower level, with Fulham.
The signs are already there that we are trying to be more attacking with Potter. Playing further up the field, you cannot afford to give the ball away, under no pressure, when you are stretched.
Its an inevitable move, given his wages as well. I hope he does well and if we get relegated, he could come back and star again in the Championship. ( Or conversely, stay with Fulham in the PL and start the ..." is he/isn't he good enough "... argument all over again )

His temperament on the pitch, with the introduction of VAR, must have played some part in the decision. Over the last 2 seasons 2 straight reds have seen him miss 10% of available matches through suspension. Had he been sent off against Palace, which he would had VAR been used, that would be 15%, plus we would have not seen that wonder goal, lost that match, been 3 points worse off and been relegated.
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
23,389
Sussex by the Sea
I am happy that Brian has made his mark and made his intentions/plans clear as in Knocky doesn't fit in to his future ideas for the team. As we know, he will live or die by that, but a strong, bold statement of intent it is.

Some great memories, some not so great but a good time for him to move on.
 


Hugo Rune

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Of course they've been looking. Means nothing though. You dont sell until you're certain. Not sure what they are certain about with the knockhaert departure.

Why not make fulham sweat and wait until the end of the window.

Maybe we want one of their players?

The Knocky Deal means that this other transfer now goes through?
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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His temperament on the pitch, with the introduction of VAR, must have played some part in the decision. Over the last 2 seasons 2 straight reds have seen him miss 10% of available matches through suspension. Had he been sent off against Palace, which he would had VAR been used, that would be 15%, plus we would have not seen that wonder goal, lost that match, been 3 points worse off and been relegated.

So his value is now nothing? From Championship player of the year whom Newcastle allegedly were willing to pay 18 million for three years ago, to a player that we have to send out on loan with an option to buy at the end of the season. Maybe the undisclosed fee is massive if Fulham get promoted :shrug:
 


J2 DOG

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Feb 28, 2009
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Hove
Bournemouth sell reserve attacker for £10 million and we loan out our best attacker ? Cannot get my head around this one? For me he had my passion in his game than all the over half dozen attack minded players he played with last season! Very odd!
 


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