[Albion] Glenn and his wife will face no charges from HMRC

[Reddleman]

Off topic I know but watching those highlights it was so evident how many chances Pascal Gross created for us and how much of a loss Izqueirdo has been. I think their lack of impact has been seriously overlooked this season.

 

[trueblue]

Off topic I know but watching those highlights it was so evident how many chances Pascal Gross created for us and how much of a loss Izqueirdo has been. I think their lack of impact has been seriously overlooked this season.

A few times at Wembley I thought "if only Gross was fit". I think we might just have nicked an equaliser from a set-piece..

 

[Easy 10]

I got an email from the lovely lads at HMRC last week saying I was due a refund and to send them my bank and debit card details. Still heard nothing but excited nonetheless.

HMRC are so archaic they still do everything by post, so at least we know that ANY communication via email pertaining to be them is total bobbins.

 

[NooBHA]

HMRC are so archaic they still do everything by post, so at least we know that ANY communication via email pertaining to be them is total bobbins.

They will do Section 9A Tax Investigation correspondence by email 'if pre-agreed''

 

[Easy 10]

They will do Section 9A Tax Investigation correspondence by email 'if pre-agreed''

I've had the faff of obtaining a business Certificate of Residency from them before. After being transferred around multiple departments I was eventually given an address to write to in Scotchland to request one, but that the turnaround was "4 to six weeks". They weren't kidding either, it took nearly 2 months to get it (via post).

Its like dealing with an organisation stuck in the 1800's. Have these people never heard of PDF's ?

 

[NooBHA]

I've had the faff of obtaining a business Certificate of Residency from them before. After being transferred around multiple departments I was eventually given an address to write to in Scotchland to request one, but that the turnaround was "4 to six weeks". They weren't kidding either, it took nearly 2 months to get it (via post).

Its like dealing with an organisation stuck in the 1800's. Have these people never heard of PDF's ?

LOL

I can understand why they don't deal with email. It does protect people's information - But i do agree there should be some sort of balance to be struck

 

[BensGrandad]

A few times at Wembley I thought "if only Gross was fit". I think we might just have nicked an equaliser from a set-piece..

I am glad that he wasnt risked and hopefully will be available against Bournemouth and or Cardiff.

 

[LamieRobertson]

A few times at Wembley I thought "if only Gross was fit". I think we might just have nicked an equaliser from a set-piece..

I’ve mentioned the loss of PG few times over the last couple of weeks ..but I think a lot of people tend to focus on his lack of pace and are more interested in Biss

 

[BensGrandad]

It may be me but I do not believe that Bissouma remotely compares to Gross at the moment, perhaps he will do in time.

 

[Norman Potting]

A few times at Wembley I thought "if only Gross was fit". I think we might just have nicked an equaliser from a set-piece..

OT but when asked how he accounted for 4 goals (I think) in consecutive games last season Murray's reply was "Pascal Gross".

 

[NooBHA]

It may be me but I do not believe that Bissouma remotely compares to Gross at the moment, perhaps he will do in time.

Very different type players - They each bring different attributes to the table

 

[trueblue]

I’ve mentioned the loss of PG few times over the last couple of weeks ..but I think a lot of people tend to focus on his lack of pace and are more interested in Biss

Always think his lack of pace is an issue too - but when he's involved, I think he's got a consistent quality none of our other creative players can match. Hard to think of a shot he's ever had that's off target, for instance. Bissouma's great to watch but not as effective yet IMO. Stressing, "yet".

 

[LamieRobertson]

It may be me but I do not believe that Bissouma remotely compares to Gross at the moment, perhaps he will do in time.

I agree ....blimey I need to go lay down

 

[Icy Gull]

Celebrated when he scored against them at the Amex last season

Go to 1:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSk1sc7OsLE

That clip brings home hard just how much we have missed a fit Jose this season

 

[Weststander]

I guessed Muzza was innocent, he seemed completely happy and relaxed since in his TV ever work since the arrests.

For those who piled in with inuendo when the original story leaked, a lesson in letting legal process take its course.

 

[Weststander]

General tax notes, not specific to Murray about whose affairs I know nothing.

The vast majority of people who have underdeclared income for tax purposes, do not get prosecuted. The reason being that to prosecute, the tax avoider has to know that what they were doing was illegal; and if you were acting on advice from an accountant with a crafty scheme, you don't know it's illegal. Besides, HMRC is more concerned about getting the money in, and it's more profitable to get the taxpayer to pay up semi-voluntarily.

If HMRC believes a taxpayer to have paid too little tax, there is an established procedure of non-criminal courts to go through. And if the taxpayer has paid too little, they have to pay the missing tax plus penalties of up to 100% depending on how serious the offence. Just because a taxpayer hasn't reached the degree of culpability that makes their actions criminal, does not mean that tax has been paid correctly, and the penalties can still apply.

Thousands of people and businesses are caught outright in evading tax (NOT through justifiable or dubious schemes .... avoidance), but as you say HMRC are more interested in getting the tax in. Plus in recent years huge (percentage-based on the tax unpaid) penalties, which are mandatory.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Fair enough, so just Palace then.

And us. Several times, as a Palace and Reading player

#teamMurray

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I guessed Muzza was innocent, he seemed completely happy and relaxed since in his TV ever work since the arrests.

For those who piled in with inuendo when the original story leaked, a lesson in letting legal process take its course.

This with bells on. The exact oppostite of the demeanour of Jonathan Woodgate after allegations of nightclub thuggery....

 

[marlowe]

This post has many inaccuracies about HMRC procedures ; You don't go through ''Non Criminal Courts'' - Someone should really lock the thread

That comment wasn't actually inaccurate. HMRC do pursue people through the Civil Courts to obtain payments. I know of someone who has a CCJ against them awarded in favour of HMRC for non payment of a penalty notice. HMRC were unable to enforce the CCJ so have just left it unpaid. In this case however HMRC should have prosecuted the individual through the Criminal Court as they have substantial evidence that he has filed various falsified accounts but they can't be bothered to pursue him through the criminal court. The man is a serial fraudster and has ripped off HMRC as well as a number of individuals to which end he submitted the falsified accounts. Because his frauds only run into about £10,000 he is considered too small fry to pursue through the criminal courts. This is why they did a half hearted civil court action which although they won they couldnt be bothered with the hassle of pursuing.
HMRC have a bunch of clowns working for them now. Certainly not the force to be reckoned with that they used to be. A lot of their people who carry out investigations haven't got a clue how to interpret HMRC's own regulations. They're a joke.

 

[Weststander]

That comment wasn't actually inaccurate. HMRC do pursue people through the Civil Courts to obtain payments. I know of someone who has a CCJ against them awarded in favour of HMRC for non payment of a penalty notice. HMRC were unable to enforce the CCJ so have just left it unpaid. In this case however HMRC should have prosecuted the individual through the Criminal Court as they have substantial evidence that he has filed various falsified accounts but they can't be bothered to pursue him through the criminal court. The man is a serial fraudster and has ripped off HMRC as well as a number of individuals to which end he submitted the falsified accounts. Because his frauds only run into about £10,000 he is considered too small fry to pursue through the criminal courts. This is why they did a half hearted civil court action which although they won they couldnt be bothered with the hassle of pursuing.
HMRC have a bunch of clowns working for them now. Certainly not the force to be reckoned with that they used to be. A lot of their people who carry out investigations haven't got a clue how to interpret HMRC's own regulations. They're a joke.

HMRC have since the age dot very rarely criminally prosecuted for tax evasion.

Their tax take from tackling evasion, avoidance, underpayment has risen by £B’s per annum in the last 9 years. I could dig out the figures for you, but it would send everyone asleep. Contrary to popular belief, those £B’s has not been raised from the ‘he’s a lovely chap’ jobbing builder or taxi driver. But across the board from high net worth individuals, companies of every size, small traders, celebrities.

I totally agree with you about the phoenix company shyster you mention. That’s very common. Because he’s hiding behind a corporate veil x many times, that makes it difficult for HMRC. If fraudulent trading or similar, it would need the Department for BIS and police to look into this. Hopefully Karma will get him!