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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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cunning fergus

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Jan 18, 2009
4,747
I think you have the opposite vision of where post EU Britain is headed. It amazes me that someone who thinks th EU cannot be changed, seems confident of switching the UK away from free market capitalism once we have left the EU.


Maybe it you that has trouble reading.........I agree with Len McClusky, we should control our labour market to protect the interests of workers. We have had 20 years of not controlling the labour market and the workers are not happy.

You either agree with him or not........you know that, just like you know what you are?
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,788
The Fatherland




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
24,601
West is BEST
and both equally dumb

From the brief clip you have exhibited from Question Time, that lady, yes she is ridiculous. Reminded me a bit of those numpties saying things like "Muslamic Rayguns" or "we'll have 350m a week to give to the NHS", just at the opposite end of the spectrum.

As for the other clip? Well, you're making yourself look a tad silly. You frequently tell people that just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them dumb and yet here you are doing just that.
 




cunning fergus

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Jan 18, 2009
4,747
I live a 90 minute plane ride from Gatwick. I don't live on ****ing Mars. I was at the last two games and even managed to zip home inbetween. I'll be at Derby as well. Traveling by British train from Bristol I imagine is a strain, jumping on a plane for me isn't.

Maybe some plane travel might broaden your narrow mind? Give it a go? I might even treat you out of my air miles.


Don't be so childish, living in Germany does not make it easy to attend BHA games...........as you know all too well.

It is you that regularly espouses the benefits of your adopted country on this forum, so by doing so accept the downsides.

Actively supporting BHA is more difficult for you than for those of us bearing up under the dreadful weather...........it's little wonder you can't understand the consequences of Brexit when you can't grasp a simple point like this?
 




The Merry Prankster

Pactum serva
Aug 19, 2006
5,577
Shoreham Beach
Don't be so childish, living in Germany does not make it easy to attend BHA games...........as you know all too well.

It is you that regularly espouses the benefits of your adopted country on this forum, so by doing so accept the downsides.

Actively supporting BHA is more difficult for you than for those of us bearing up under the dreadful weather...........it's little wonder you can't understand the consequences of Brexit when you can't grasp a simple point like this?

When I lived in Ibiza the 10.00 am flight got me into Brighton in time for lunch before the game the 20.00 had me home in time for a bite before a club. Very easy, very pleasant days. It's the modern world. A lot simpler and easier than many BHA fans have it.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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The Fatherland
Don't be so childish, living in Germany does not make it easy to attend BHA games...........as you know all too well.

It is you that regularly espouses the benefits of your adopted country on this forum, so by doing so accept the downsides.

Actively supporting BHA is more difficult for you than for those of us bearing up under the dreadful weather...........it's little wonder you can't understand the consequences of Brexit when you can't grasp a simple point like this?

I didn't say it made it easy did I? I'm saying it isn't prohibitive. There's a difference.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
24,601
West is BEST
The Simon Weisenthal Centre would disagree with you after she made their top 10 list for anti semitic comments.
But yes she is pokable

A claim that many leading Jewish representatives across the world have ridiculed and apologised for. Weisenthal, while obviously doing a lot of good himself is regularly criticised for his over zealous approach to labelling people Anti Semite.
He placed her in the list between a Lithuanian holocaust denier and a man saying all Jews should be burned to death. She had written an article on the limits of multiculturalism.

So let's have a bit of context eh.
 


pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
From the brief clip you have exhibited from Question Time, that lady, yes she is ridiculous. Reminded me a bit of those numpties saying things like "Muslamic Rayguns" or "we'll have 350m a week to give to the NHS", just at the opposite end of the spectrum.

As for the other clip? Well, you're making yourself look a tad silly. You frequently tell people that just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them dumb and yet here you are doing just that.

If someone has a sensible opinion they are not dumb in the slightest.
Being an arrogant journalist saying you have little regard for the British people is a dumb opinion......not quite stupid though, that would be reserved for people saying "the economy is crashing" when clearly the economy is not crashing.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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When I lived in Ibiza the 10.00 am flight got me into Brighton in time for lunch before the game the 20.00 had me home in time for a bite before a club. Very easy, very pleasant days. It's the modern world. A lot simpler and easier than many BHA fans have it.

Exactly.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
24,601
West is BEST
Thats a massive amount of disposable income to spend considering we have been informed by clampy these visitors are basically travellers.
Imagine how much it would be if non traveller Irish folk bothered to turn up to Cheltenham

When did I ever say Travellers were poor? Many travellers are very, very wealthy people. Look at the Epsom races. Tattenhem Corner, very wealthy area, costly. Overrun with travellers at Derby time. Even the vets closes because they bring all their animals in and expect free treatment.

You are verging on trolling now. Saying anything to get a row going.
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,650
Gods country fortnightly
When I lived in Ibiza the 10.00 am flight got me into Brighton in time for lunch before the game the 20.00 had me home in time for a bite before a club. Very easy, very pleasant days. It's the modern world. A lot simpler and easier than many BHA fans have it.

Hopefully things like this can continue. UK airlines losing access to the EU's deregulated aviation market is not impossible now the government has decided to go for Brexit at any cost.
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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If someone has a sensible opinion they are not dumb in the slightest.
Being an arrogant journalist saying you have little regard for the British people is a dumb opinion......not quite stupid though, that would be reserved for people saying "the economy is crashing" when clearly the economy is not crashing.

I think you need a cup of tea. You're getting things all wrong today.

Tea. Great idea.

Tatty bye.
 


Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
So. You spend months stating those who don't live in the UK shouldn't have any comment. And now you are siding with May to protect our rights. Are you willfully hypocritical, forgetful? Or just a stupid waste of space with **** all to say for themself?

You keep boasting about your beautiful view from your top floor flat whilst laughing at the weather here. You love boasting about your great life in the Fatherland whilst poking your nose in on issues over here.
Are you upset because you and the woman you drool over, Frau Merkel, have lost one of your offshore cash cows....is it because our leaving will affect your boastful lifestyle.
Never mind eh.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
When did I ever say Travellers were poor? Many travellers are very, very wealthy people. Look at the Epsom races. Tattenhem Corner, very wealthy area, costly. Overrun with travellers at Derby time. Even the vets closes because they bring all their animals in and expect free treatment.

You are verging on trolling now. Saying anything to get a row going.

You didnt say they were poor, and i never said you did.
so stop inventing things to get a row going.
And you dont need to be wealthy to park your caravan in a wealthy area.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
24,601
West is BEST
You keep boasting about your beautiful view from your top floor flat whilst laughing at the weather here. You love boasting about your great life in the Fatherland whilst poking your nose in on issues over here.
Are you upset because you and the woman you drool over, Frau Merkel, have lost one of your offshore cash cows....is it because our leaving will affect your boastful lifestyle.
Never mind eh.
Why is it so hard for you and your ilk to imagine some people can live in one country and still have family, friends, investments, a home, roots and connections in another.

I have an American friend who is very upset about what Trump is doing to her country. She lives in Dulwich. Her parents live in NY State. Should I slap her round the chops and tell her the US is no longer her concern?

You really can be a donkey sometimes.
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
24,601
West is BEST
You didnt say they were poor, and i never said you did.
so stop inventing things to get a row going.
And you dont need to be wealthy to park your caravan in a wealthy area.

Quite true, you don't have to be wealthy, many aren't. You claim Travellers didn't have that kind but of disposable income. You also rightly stated I claimed travellers travel to race meets.
You inferred I though travellers were poor.
Look, you've been caught out either trolling or trying to be clever and tripping up. Either way it's a wast of my time debating with you because you make stuff up. You're tying yourself up knots.
 


Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
Why is it so hard for you and your ilk to imagine some people can live in one country and still have family, friends, investments, a home, roots and connections in another.

I have an American friend who is very upset about what Trump is doing to her country. She lives in Dulwich. Her parents live in NY State. Should I slap her round the chops and tell her the US is no longer her concern?

You really can be a donkey sometimes.

Why is so hard for you to not accept a different opinion to yours.
I have little time for those who live in a foreign country and keep boasting about it whilst looking down on the country that they left.
I take more notice of people that live here, whether they agree with me or not.
I thought you were off on your travels anyway.
 


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