Arabic comedian thrown off flight

[BadFish]

Dead people = indisputable evidence

not while people are disputing it, it isn't.

Do you know what indisputable means?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

not while people are disputing it it isn't.

That's the great irony, the left defending an extreme right ideology and it's right wing followers.

Such a shame Christopher Hitchens is no longer with us.

 

[Easy 10]

The fact that some passengers were saying "bye" and waving goodbye would suggest that he'd probably been being an irritant in some way - I doubt that would've been the reaction if they'd been genuinely spooked by him.

Course they COULD be out-and-out racists. But I think on balance, its sounding more likely he was being a prick with one of his "hilarious" edgy pranks. In which case he deserved everything he got.

 

[Insel affe]

The fact that some passengers were saying "bye" and waving goodbye would suggest that he'd probably been being an irritant in some way - I doubt that would've been the reaction if they'd been genuinely spooked by him.

Course they COULD be out-and-out racists. But I think on balance, its sounding more likely he was being a prick with one of his "hilarious" edgy pranks. In which case he deserved everything he got.

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Very telling that he is only posting the clips of him being escorted off the plane and telling all and sundry trying to get a reaction which he gets. The clip of him on a previous flight counting down from 10 in Arabic is crass on board a plane no matter what religion or race you are if you heard that you would be concerned it is not funny people genuinely fear for their lives.

The bloke is social media ghoul out for himself with no intention of pointing out the equalities in life other than publicity

 

[Easy 10]

True telling that he is only posting the clips of him being escorted off the plane and telling all and sundry trying to get a reaction which he gets. The clip of him on a previous flight counting down from 10 in Arabic is crass on board a plane no matter what religion or race you are if you heard that you would be concerned it is not funny people genuinely fear for their lives.

The bloke is social media ghoul out for himself with no intention of pointing out the equalities in life other than publicity

I hadn't seen that clip you mention (if its on this thread I haven't viewed it as I'm at work). That being the case though, the guy is clearly a weapons grade fvckwit of the highest order. If it was my airline, I'd ban him from it permanently.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

True telling that he is only posting the clips of him being escorted off the plane and telling all and sundry trying to get a reaction which he gets. The clip of him on a previous flight counting down from 10 in Arabic is crass on board a plane no matter what religion or race you are if you heard that you would be concerned it is not funny people genuinely fear for their lives.

The bloke is social media ghoul out for himself with no intention of pointing out the equalities in life other than publicity

Delta have done nothing wrong in this case, say the plane took off and he started doing shit like that and a passenger got spooked (rightly or wrongly) and decided to try and stop him by force, it then becomes a much bigger danger and more of an issue.

There is no over reaction when it comes to airline safety, I am sure 9/10 they remove/search innocent people, but given what they have been through in the not too distant past can you blame them?

It is an absolute bullache queuing for hours in certain airports in the US, but things like this wont help that will they?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I hadn't seen that clip you mention (if its on this thread I haven't viewed it as I'm at work). That being the case though, the guy is clearly a weapons grade fvckwit of the highest order. If it was my airline, I'd ban him from it permanently.

I imagine he will find himself banned from Delta and all its partner airlines today.

 

[LamieRobertson]

I hadn't seen that clip you mention (if its on this thread I haven't viewed it as I'm at work). That being the case though, the guy is clearly a weapons grade fvckwit of the highest order. If it was my airline, I'd ban him from it permanently.

If it was your airline...hmm must think up some sort of catchy name....Easy...it'll come to me in a minister.,..Easyplane....no not quite...let me think more ...

 

[alfredmizen]

If it was your airline...hmm must think up some sort of catchy name....Easy...it'll come to me in a minister.,..Easyplane....no not quite...let me think more ...

 

[Easy 10]

If it was your airline...hmm must think up some sort of catchy name....Easy...it'll come to me in a minister.,..Easyplane....no not quite...let me think more ...

Post of the week

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

There's not a lot of cross over really. alt right are far right, how exactly does a far right group cross over with an ideology that supports gay marriage, abortion, decriminalising drugs etc?

What you're describing and falling for is the same folly of people who thought the Tea Party was Libertarian after it was hijacked by the right.

The alt right can describe themselves how they wish, doesn't make them Libertarians though. Not even close.

Yeah, I'm not disputing what a true libertarian ideology is, regardless of my views on it. But it feels to me that people expressing libertarian views tend to overlap these with conservative views. For example, a true libertarian has no place trying to restrict immigration on the basis of religious affiliation. Also, you very rarely see a libertarian pop up in a debate about abortion or gay marriage, but as soon as there is a debate on islam or 'liberalism', they are all over the place denouncing these two things as the worst of humanity.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Actually it's a great starting point when trying to create a vetting process to weed the garbage from the good. Stop them all until you ascertain which sects pose a threat and which do not and formulate that into a process that significantly lessens the chances of extremists coming in and it removes the Russian roulette process that is in place at present.

So you'd treat Sufi musicians or dancers or the Muslim SVP of an Indian Software Company or an old Ibadi woman from Borneo in exactly the same way as a convert or a Wahaabi with known links to extremism?

 

[symyjym]

No it's not and I've picked you up on this before. Grouping all Islam together shows a fundamental misunderstanding of its different sects and philosophies. Looks like you didn't read the last reply I gave you on this over generalisation


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Those different sects are basically different cultures where Islam hasn't completely taken over. Sufi’s like their music and whirling dervishes dancing but that was their culture before Islam. They are not considered Muslims by different Muslims.

A sufi musician was killed not long ago https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/22/pakistani-sufi-singer-shot-dead-in-karachi

The biggest problem for Islam is the baggage it carries and I think there is a massive problem when Muslims can justify the 53 year old Muhammad having sex with a 9 year old in their own mind.

I brought this up with a Muslim last night and this is the response:

omg. literally omg. what planet do you come from like what even. how is this even pedophilia. pedos usually RAPE children and torture them. This is a story of Muhammad and Aisyah his wife.

Me: I don't know what dictionary you use but pedophilia means: A person who is sexually attracted to children.

He replied: Sexually attracted which implies that a person who want children for sex right? but which part of Muhammad’s marriage said that muhammad ONLY had sex with his wives?

Me: He consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was 9, and he spoke of fondling young girls in the Hadith’s. In fact he recommended it.

Conversation stopped there but how can anyone take a religion seriously when it’s followers believe that Muhammad is the greatest role model that ever lived. We shouldn’t forget that there Allah conveniently revealed a verse giving him permission to take Aisha as a bride when she was just 6. Even female Muslims try to justify it and see it as a love story.

 

[Buzzer]

Interesting, this makes more sene. the truth is probably somewhere in the middle

Nope. The truth is probably a million miles from what this prankster with an agenda claims and nowhere near the middle. These stories always get trotted out whenever a terrorist attack is done in the name of the religion of peace. It gives muslims like this shit-stirrer with a chip on their shoulder the chance to play the victim and claim some sort of equivalence with Christians picking on muslims.

It's easier that way for them to steer the argument towards their preferred narrative and away from the fact that the bloodthirsty death cult they swear allegiance to has fundamental problems with Western liberal values.

 

[Two Professors]

So you'd treat Sufi musicians or dancers or the Muslim SVP of an Indian Software Company or an old Ibadi woman from Borneo in exactly the same way as a convert or a Wahaabi with known links to extremism?

Good grief.How did an old Ibadi woman get to Borneo?Better get some crowd-funding started to get her home!

 

[Guinness Boy]

Good grief.How did an old Ibadi woman get to Borneo?Better get some crowd-funding started to get her home!

We'll she'd be let in wouldn't she? But well done on spotting it on behalf of your mate who seems to have gone quiet.


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[Jackthelad]

Those different sects are basically different cultures where Islam hasn't completely taken over. Sufi’s like their music and whirling dervishes dancing but that was their culture before Islam. They are not considered Muslims by different Muslims.

A sufi musician was killed not long ago https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/22/pakistani-sufi-singer-shot-dead-in-karachi

The biggest problem for Islam is the baggage it carries and I think there is a massive problem when Muslims can justify the 53 year old Muhammad having sex with a 9 year old in their own mind.

I brought this up with a Muslim last night and this is the response:

omg. literally omg. what planet do you come from like what even. how is this even pedophilia. pedos usually RAPE children and torture them. This is a story of Muhammad and Aisyah his wife.

Me: I don't know what dictionary you use but pedophilia means: A person who is sexually attracted to children.

He replied: Sexually attracted which implies that a person who want children for sex right? but which part of Muhammad’s marriage said that muhammad ONLY had sex with his wives?

Me: He consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was 9, and he spoke of fondling young girls in the Hadith’s. In fact he recommended it.

Conversation stopped there but how can anyone take a religion seriously when it’s followers believe that Muhammad is the greatest role model that ever lived. We shouldn’t forget that there Allah conveniently revealed a verse giving him permission to take Aisha as a bride when she was just 6. Even female Muslims try to justify it and see it as a love story.

It's a complete brickwall with Sunni Muslims the Aisha/Muhammad issue, the whole "thighing" of Aishia is also ignored and not talked about. You will get a lot of "Well.. it was just the period of time everyone did that then.." kind of answers from Muslims or "it was a special relationship"..

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

For example, a true libertarian has no place trying to restrict immigration on the basis of religious affiliation. Also, you very rarely see a libertarian pop up in a debate about abortion or gay marriage, but as soon as there is a debate on islam or 'liberalism', they are all over the place denouncing these two things as the worst of humanity.

Gay marriage and abortion don't affect a Libertarians life in the slightest. They pose no threat to personal safety or personal freedoms because they are not ideologies. That is why they will not be involved in debating it, it's not their business.

Islam and Liberalism on the other hand can or could impact a Libertarian or their family due to their ideologies. They are both at the top of the tree for policing(or wanting too) peoples thoughts and freedoms to suit their ideologies.

 

[Diablo]

Arabic comedian thrown off flight..

So he should have been...However he was not thrown off flight(mores the pity) He was thrown off before flight.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

So you'd treat Sufi musicians or dancers or the Muslim SVP of an Indian Software Company or an old Ibadi woman from Borneo in exactly the same way as a convert or a Wahaabi with known links to extremism?

Until a highly effective vetting process was put in place, yes.

You realise the US has a Sufi insurgent group listed on their terrorist list yes?