Stop Funding Hate - Pathetic!

[portlock seagull]

Agreed. The idea that some of these newspapers reflect people's views ignores the fact that they also shape them in the first place - and if the stories are based on a wilful distortion of the facts, that's disturbing.

It's unbelievable that some people still think that these stories have no effect, even after Brexit and Trump's elections - and even more weird they get so agitated by any suggestion that there are very worrying parallels to the rise of fascism that led to the 2nd World War.

Very well said. History is practically just wars that are interrupted by peace. We've got so complacent about ever being involved in another major conflict we could be sleepwalking towards one that's potentially just around the corner. Not until peoples TVs turn off and they can't vote for Xfactor or Celebrity Jungle will half the population care what's going on in their country or the larger world. Bit late then.

 

[trueblue]

Couldn't make it up,could you?Morons!

Why are they morons... I don't get it? Don't have a strong view on their arguments but the right to protest is fundamental to our society.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Has the 'Stop funding Hate' movement been calling for boycotts and protests against the Saudis over the last decade or so?

No, but then the exporting of Wahhabism around the world has only led to death, unimaginable misery and destruction on an immense scale whereas The Daily Mail has been nasty to Immigrants and UK judges.

#easysjwtarget

 

[portlock seagull]

But newspapers carry a lot of other stuff aside from politics. The Guardian travel and food sections are very good in my opinion. Sport is okay. I'm not a big film buff but apparently the film section is very good. The Guide has its moments.

That's really why I remain a paper reader. All the other stuff! The news journalism and commentary are often so completely biased I feel a fool for reading them. 5 minutes you can't get back and all that. So increasingly you just skim or skip.

 

[Biscuit]

Has the 'Stop funding Hate' movement been calling for boycotts and protests against the Saudis over the last decade or so?

No, but then the exporting of Wahhabism around the world has only led to death, unimaginable misery and destruction on an immense scale whereas The Daily Mail has been nasty to Immigrants and UK judges.

#easysjwtarget

So trying to stop certain evils is bad because there are other, worse ones to worry about?

Is that actually your point?!

 

[Hastings gull]

very good, you're fast becoming my favourite WUM

I really couldn't give a toss for your opinion of what "many" is. Or anything else for that matter.

Yes, it did not take too long for the person who claims to be against intolerance to show his true colours. You have got to be a corbynista, with such hypocrisy.

 

[portlock seagull]

Has the 'Stop funding Hate' movement been calling for boycotts and protests against the Saudis over the last decade or so?

No, but then the exporting of Wahhabism around the world has only led to death, unimaginable misery and destruction on an immense scale whereas The Daily Mail has been nasty to Immigrants and UK judges.

#easysjwtarget

What does #easysjwtarget stand for (the middle bit)? Sorry, you've lost me.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

But newspapers carry a lot of other stuff aside from politics. The Guardian travel and food sections are very good in my opinion. Sport is okay. I'm not a big film buff but apparently the film section is very good. The Guide has its moments.

Very much this-not so sure it applies these days as i don't actually buy any Newspaper anymore,but take the Sun as an example,aside from the obvious back in the day,it's Sport/football section was highly regarded in accuracy...

The On-Line versions are better,now i should be a Daily Mail reader really,but i get drawn to the Independent (the irony of the name) and the Gaurdian (who would have thought it) i don't agree with all that they write up,i agree with a lot too and i like reading the comments sections in both papers.

In the case of the Gaurdian it's a very *for me anyway,user friendly and appealing site,far more so than the Mail which i just cannot read.

 

[portlock seagull]

So trying to stop certain evils is bad because there are other, worse ones to worry about?

Is that actually your point?!

I didn't read his point like that at all. Think you've jumped the gun there in the 100m rage heats

 

[JC Footy Genius]

What does #easysjwtarget stand for (the middle bit)? Sorry, you've lost me.

Social justice warrior .. self appointed obviously.

 

[Biscuit]

Yes, it did not take too long for the person who claims to be against intolerance to show his true colours. You have got to be a corbynista, with such hypocrisy.

deary me! Actually, for what it's worth, I won't be voting for Corbyn shows what you know, eh?

 

[portlock seagull]

Very much this-not so sure it applies these days as i don't actually buy any Newspaper anymore,but take the Sun as an example,aside from the obvious back in the day,it's Sport/football section was highly regarded in accuracy...

The On-Line versions are better,now i should be a Daily Mail reader really,but i get drawn to the Independent (the irony of the name) and the Gaurdian (who would have thought it) i don't agree with all that they write up,i agree with a lot too and i like reading the comments sections in both papers.

In the case of the Gaurdian it's a very *for me anyway,user friendly and appealing site,far more so than the Mail which i just cannot read.

Word is the Guardian is about to become pay-for content in same way as Times and Telegraph just has. They don't want to, the readership's not as large, typically wealthy or traditional/aged for starters. Hence the sponsor journalism appeals for past year as a preferred source of revenue. But it's not been enough. So they will turn to pay per view. Which might very well kill it I guess.

 

[portlock seagull]

Social justice warrior .. self appointed obviously.

 

[Hastings gull]

Agreed. The idea that some of these newspapers reflect people's views ignores the fact that they also shape them in the first place - and if the stories are based on a wilful distortion of the facts, that's disturbing.

It's unbelievable that some people still think that these stories have no effect, even after Brexit and Trump's elections - and even more weird they get so agitated by any suggestion that there are very worrying parallels to the rise of fascism that led to the 2nd World War.

There was much TV coverage of why so many folk voted for Trump -the pictures of long-forgotten derelict factories told their own story. The situation in which so many people in the USA found themselves was such that they didn't need their views to be shaped by any paper. The Establishment had already done that. As you sit in your quaint Sussex village, pontificating about Brexit, it might be an idea to remind you that UKIP scored heavily in areas where there is huge immigration - folk can see all around them how their area has changed, and this too does not come from a paper. Papers may cement your views, but I put it you that you are the result of your upbringing and your experiences of life.
And what are the worrying parallels, to which you refer?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Think I'm done for the today. Just got a Wild Beer Co Modus Operandi Old Ale 90 day Oak aged wild yeast beer out of the fridge. Feet up time; cheers everyone.

 

[Biscuit]

I see that the two-homes hypocrite is joining in with a very sensible contribution about those dreadful right-wingers.

Nasty trait, jealousy.

 

[Theatre of Trees]

Has the 'Stop funding Hate' movement been calling for boycotts and protests against the Saudis over the last decade or so?

No, but then the exporting of Wahhabism around the world has only led to death, unimaginable misery and destruction on an immense scale whereas The Daily Mail has been nasty to Immigrants and UK judges.

#easysjwtarget

Probably because they are a domestic pressure group concentrating on domestic issues?

Of course there is nothing stopping you setting up a campaign group against puritanical Wahhabism. Free country and all that.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Word is the Guardian is about to become pay-for content in same way as Times and Telegraph just has. They don't want to, the readership's not as large, typically wealthy or traditional/aged for starters. Hence the sponsor journalism appeals for past year as a preferred source of revenue. But it's not been enough. So they will turn to pay per view. Which might very well kill it I guess.

If they go down that road,they will have lost a casual Middle Right reader like myself.

 

[Hastings gull]

Think I'm done for the today. Just got a Wild Beer Co Modus Operandi Old Ale 90 day Oak aged wild yeast beer out of the fridge. Feet up time; cheers everyone.

What's wrong with good old Deutsches Bier.

 

[Hastings gull]

Nasty trait, jealousy. [/QUOTE

Presumably, you are all too ready to forget his post that prompted my outburst- sadly typical of the double standards that you have showed this afternoon, when you now denounce others, having begun on a moral pedestal about intolerance . .