"Shelvey is the best player EVER to play in the Championship"

[studio150]

If guilty I would expect the FA to impose a tough sentence as this is one aspect that they are keen to remove from the game. Hopefully a high number of games banned rather than fewer games and a higher fine.
If banned he clearly won't be in Holloways updated team of the season at the start of 2017.

 

[Wardy's twin]

I really don't like this 'best ever' player approach, what is it based on skill, contribution , influence , goals , assists , saves. He is a very good player and I would have him in our team .

 

[NooBHA]

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...loways-championship-team-of-the-season-so-far

Ian Holloway's Championship team of the season so far;

Al-Habsi (Reading)
Bruno
Lascelles (Newcastle)
Jansson (Leeds)
Malone (Fulham)
Knockaert
Shelvey (Newcastle)
Mooy (Huddersfield)
Kachunga (Huddersfield)
Abraham (Bristol City)
Gayle (Newcastle)

He says that Shelvey is the best player ever to play in the Championship which is debatable at best.

That's not a Holloway team. He plays with one goalkeeper, two defenders, two midfielders and 6 forwards

 

[NooBHA]

Plus Duff, Irwin, Merson, Tim Cahill. There are LOADS better than Shelvey.

Tim Cahill is a very valuable player to have in your team because of his goals from midfield but I am not sure he was the most talented player in that Millwall side he played in. I think that honour goes to Richard Sadlier whose career ended early through injury.

Peoples choices are all subjective. Knockeart is one of the most gifted that I have ever seen in this division but I don't think anyone can claim who is in fact the best. Lots of top players also dropped into the Championship so Ollie talks loads a shite as usual making statements like he does about Shelvey being the best ever. He cant even get a proper job at the moment

 

[BUTTERBALL]

Ridiculous quote from Holloway. Harry Kane played in the Championship for Milwall, is he saying Shelvey is a better player?

 

[Farehamseagull]

Robert Prosinecki was an old chain smoker, played in a shit team and still ran the show

Yes, great call, Prosinecki was a genius! A bit like Vicente he was on a different planet to every other player on the pitch.

He lived near me and at the time I was a student working part time in a video shop, he used to come in nearly every day and rent 2/3 films. Always smoking, bizarre fashion sense, but a lovely guy and a beautiful wife.

Back on topic, Shelvey is an excellent player - always thought he was under rated in the premier league, but he certainly isn't the best ever in this league. Holloway does get carried away at times.

 

[LVGull]

Charged with using racist language to another player

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

With the same bigoted outlook....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37915171

Charged with using racist language to another player

The previous page.

 

[Albumen]

He's too big a player to play in the championship, he's easily premiership. But he's also an idiot, which is nice (for us).

 

[HastingsSeagull]

Dunk not there purely to get a Leeds player in the side? Lascelles and Dunk for me all day!

 

[SeagullofMalaysia]

Dunk not there purely to get a Leeds player in the side? Lascelles and Dunk for me all day!

To be fair, Jansson has been an absolute rock, though I do agree that Dunk has to be in the side (displacing Lascelles instead)

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

The deeper our players stay under the radar the better.

 

[Machiavelli]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ansson-championship-most-eye-catching-players

 

[hans kraay fan club]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ansson-championship-most-eye-catching-players

On the whole, a really decent article that, but I don't recognize the Anthony Knockaert he describes, at all (except the last line). For me Knockaert is almost unique amongst hugely gifted flairmeisters, in that he is hugely hard-working, and unquestionably a 100% TEAM player.

Google Brighton’s magical winger Anthony Knockaert and headlines suggest the Belgian twinkle-toes has compared himself to Neymar. That is not quite the case – he was calling for creative players to be protected more by referees – but, even if there is a reason why one is playing in the Championship and the other with Barcelona, the two certainly perform similar roles for their teams. Knockaert can be frustrating to watch, a man who looks as if he is constantly trying to score the perfect goal from the most preposterous angle, sometimes ignoring pleading colleagues. But every now and then he does score the perfect goal from the most preposterous angle and he is forgiven. He is probably the most naturally gifted player in the Championship.

 

[Machiavelli]

On the whole, a really decent article that, but I don't recognize the Anthony Knockaert he describes, at all (except the last line). For me Knockaert is almost unique amongst hugely gifted flairmeisters, in that he is hugely hard-working, and unquestionably a 100% TEAM player.

I love Knockaert, and really do think his work rate is phenomenal, particularly the number of intensive sprints he gets through. Can he be improved though? If the answer is yes, then I'd suggest that at times he does need to be a little more aware of others when in dangerous positions. I do appreciate that there have been some amazing assists that haven't been taken (Kayal at home, earlier this season when he should have shot with his left foot, and came back inside on his right -- can't remember who this was against, Huddersfield maybe?), he is still yet to have a (direct) assist this season to the best of my knowledge. I'd be interested to know how many assists he was credited with last season (I can certainly remember two goals from brilliant counter-attacks, Zamora and Hemed in early 2016) but there are a few times where he tries to take on too much. On this (against Preston? certainly in the first half of a home game), there was a scenario when he hit a pull-back from Bruno wide, when Murphy was placed directly behind him and was arguably better placed to score.

With a bit of luck, this post won't be interpreted as criticism of Knockaert.

 

[ipad1977]

Shelvey is good, no doubt about it, awesome for the championship in fact.

But better than every player who's played in the second tier? Better than Fabrizio Ravanelli was? Better than Tim Cahill approaching his peak? Jamie Vardy? Better than Paul Merson and Robert Huth? All of these?

He's probably bang level with say Charlie Austin in my opinion, though that is still praise.

Gollum really is barking up the wrong tree with this one.

 

[Ernest]

I expect Holloway will sign him for QPR now

 

[BensGrandad]

Newcastle must be preparing for a bid to take him back to London in January.

 

[oldboyroy]

shelvey best player ever to play in championship....balls

 

[Diego Napier]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ansson-championship-most-eye-catching-players

Chelsea have 38 players out on loan? Talk about using your financial clout to hoover up talent and deprive other teams of potential stars. I know other big teams do it but 38!