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'Osborne Abandons 2020 Budget Surplus Target'



beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,343
they dont let a crisis go to waste, so Osbornes taken the opportunity to kill off a policy that was political and economic straight jacket, only ever in place to lay a political landmine for Labour had they got into power.
 




HitchinSeagull

Active member
Aug 9, 2012
414
Hardly surprising the target has been dropped given the result of the referendum. And then we get the local labour councillor in this weeks Brighton Independent raving about how a devalued pound is brillant for Brighton and Hove as more foreign tourists will visit. Completely overlooking the higher oil prices which will increase transport and distribution costs and given that there is no certainty that the increase in tourists will happen given that they may believe they won't be welcomed or indeed that they will spend more.
Which just shows the high caliber of councillor that we have locally.
Its also been pointed out that any gains in the tourist market are outweighed by the loss of business clients who are worth much more.
 


Hampster Gull

New member
Dec 22, 2010
13,462
Not sure what people are going on about. Brexiters create huge uncertainty that both the chancellor and the govenor of the bank of england need to try and rebuild it. Doing there job. Should be congratulated for trying to stop this becoming a shambles
 


Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,739
LOONEY BIN
Not sure what people are going on about. Brexiters create huge uncertainty that both the chancellor and the govenor of the bank of england need to try and rebuild it. Doing there job. Should be congratulated for trying to stop this becoming a shambles

John McDonnell will soon rescue the economy from these rich boys who need a calculator to count past 10
 






LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
46,914
SHOREHAM BY SEA
250000 members think they're not fit to be MP's and won't be much longer

I wonder how many of those members that voted for Corbyn would do so now...half?..Less? ...he really is a poor leader though isen't he..not that I rate the Tory lot either
 










JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
they dont let a crisis go to waste, so Osbornes taken the opportunity to kill off a policy that was political and economic straight jacket, only ever in place to lay a political landmine for Labour had they got into power.

Is the correct answer and also a sensible move as having maximum flexibility in uncertain times is economic/political common sense.
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,260
Just far enough away from LDC
250000 members think they're not fit to be MP's and won't be much longer

You sure about that? If the momentum swp types turned up at constituency meetings they may learn a thing or two
 




cheshunt seagull

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
2,502
An economic policy that was presented as the only option and caused misery to so many people is now shown to have been just one of a number of options. Maybe if we had opted for investment and growth instead of the straight-jacket of austerity we wouldn't see the levels of desperation that fuelled a leave vote. Alas a reversal of this policy will be too late to help many of these people now as Brexit has its impact; it's always the same people that suffer the most.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,656
Gods country fortnightly
Starting to get quite amusing who the Tories lambasted Ed Balls for crashing the economy.

First they promised to eliminate the deficit by 2015, dismal fail having piled on more debt than all the other governments in history. Finally win an the election on their own for the first time in 23 years, promised again but would give it till 2020, one year in gave up. Why not borrow even more Philip?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...conference-george-osborne-break-a7342271.html

What is a mess for the kids and grand kids to pick up?

More debt for the kids and grand kids




managed to put on more debt than any other government in history,
 


yxee

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2011
2,521
Manchester
Starting to get quite amusing who the Tories lambasted Ed Balls for crashing the economy.

First they promised to eliminate the deficit by 2015, dismal fail having piled on more debt than all the other governments in history.

Not correct, see below.

The funny thing is, people slam the Tories for making welfare cuts, whilst simultaneously complaining that the national debt is increasing. THE CUTS ARE TO FIX THE NATIONAL DEBT.

UK_Debt_to_GDP_ratio.png
 




Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,218
Starting to get quite amusing who the Tories lambasted Ed Balls for crashing the economy.

First they promised to eliminate the deficit by 2015, dismal fail having piled on more debt than all the other governments in history. Finally win an the election on their own for the first time in 23 years, promised again but would give it till 2020, one year in gave up. Why not borrow even more Philip?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...conference-george-osborne-break-a7342271.html

What is a mess for the kids and grand kids to pick up?

More debt for the kids and grand kids




managed to put on more debt than any other government in history,

Vote Labour!! You know, the political party that's well known for being frugal and using tax payers wisely, saving for a rainy day and generally ensuring there is plenty of money in the Government coffers for years to come without the need to borrow and thinks about future generations when it comes to public money and how they will be able to afford public services and new infrastructure rather than spending it like it's going out of fashion just to win votes through public opinion of them being caring and then portray any political party taking over the mess they've made of public finances as evil for trying to put the country back onto it's financial feet?
 


Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
55,843
Back in Sussex
Starting to get quite amusing who the Tories lambasted Ed Balls for crashing the economy.

First they promised to eliminate the deficit by 2015, dismal fail having piled on more debt than all the other governments in history. Finally win an the election on their own for the first time in 23 years, promised again but would give it till 2020, one year in gave up. Why not borrow even more Philip?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...conference-george-osborne-break-a7342271.html

What is a mess for the kids and grand kids to pick up?

More debt for the kids and grand kids




managed to put on more debt than any other government in history,

You are quite correct. This is damming stuff.

Damming for the Labour Party that more of the electorate would rather have the Tories in control of the purse strings than to let Labour loose with them once again.
 


Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
You are quite correct. This is damming stuff.

Damming for the Labour Party that more of the electorate would rather have the Tories in control of the purse strings than to let them loose once again.

Except the millions who done what they were told and went out to work but still find themselves in abject poverty and still unable to decide if they should turn the heating on or feed the kids.
As long as it is done responsibly i fail to see why so many on here who regard themselves as smart cannot see that borrowing to invest creates growth, but halfwits like you cant even see the the failure of the Tories as long as you are ok nothing else matters.
I am not saying Corbyn is the answer but Austerity in its hardest form has not worked and has left many desperate people in its wake, while the rich get richer.
Still, you carry on sitting up there on your lofty perch with your blue rinse.
I am doing ok thank you, but i think of others worse off than myself, no way would i vote for those guffawing, sarcastic cretins that i saw in Birmingham today, croaking on about how great they have done, how Cameron was a great PM and Osborne an outstanding Chancellor, ye gods man can you not see any further than the end of your wallet.
 


wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patron
Aug 10, 2007
13,627
Melbourne
millions who done what they were told and went out to work

find themselves in abject poverty

turn the heating on or feed the kids.

but halfwits like you cant even see the the failure of the Tories as long as you are ok nothing else matters.

Only one halfwit I can see here..........
 




Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,739
LOONEY BIN
The CAMPAIGN for the NEXT election will be 'VOTE Labour for FISCAL responsibility. Don't LET the Tories TRASH the economy a THIRD time'. Of course it is OBVIOUS that when CHANCELLOR McDonnell walks into No.11 Hammond will be LEAVING a note saying 'Not only is there NO money left but I've just run up a FEW billions more DEBT for you to deal with'.
 


Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
55,843
Back in Sussex
Except the millions who done what they were told and went out to work but still find themselves in abject poverty and still unable to decide if they should turn the heating on or feed the kids.
As long as it is done responsibly i fail to see why so many on here who regard themselves as smart cannot see that borrowing to invest creates growth, but halfwits like you cant even see the the failure of the Tories as long as you are ok nothing else matters.
I am not saying Corbyn is the answer but Austerity in its hardest form has not worked and has left many desperate people in its wake, while the rich get richer.
Still, you carry on sitting up there on your lofty perch with your blue rinse.
I am doing ok thank you, but i think of others worse off than myself, no way would i vote for those guffawing, sarcastic cretins that i saw in Birmingham today, croaking on about how great they have done, how Cameron was a great PM and Osborne an outstanding Chancellor, ye gods man can you not see any further than the end of your wallet.

Blimey, are you alright hun?

This has nothing to do with me but, as I said, the electorate's view. In the most recent poll I could find, from YouGov in August, 35% thought the Conservatives are the party best placed to run the economy, whilst only 17% thought Labour are.

It's not news for me to say that often Labour have been unable to convince the electorate of their economic credentials, and they seem to be in that same spot once again.
 


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