How will you feel if you vote for the losing side in the referendum ?

[Herr Tubthumper]

I suppose that is the difference, i live here and want what i feel is best/support for my country, thus my savings are here, you do not live here and can not wait to shift your savings out, whilst still telling us what is best..........priceless.

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[Herr Tubthumper]

I suppose that is the difference, i live here and want what i feel is best/support for my country, thus my savings are here, you do not live here and can not wait to shift your savings out, whilst still telling us what is best..........priceless.

As an aside I can absolutely assure you I'll be piling my savings back into the uk in the event of Brexit. I might even buy you.

 

[Soulman]

As an aside I can absolutely assure you I'll be piling my savings back into the uk in the event of Brexit. I might even buy you.

As i said, i live here and contribute here, save here........." I might even buy you", You have a very high opinion of yourself, borders on arrogant.

 

[larus]

Oil although important within the Scottish Economy - It is not dependent on it

Scotland’s leading export industries

There are five sectors that account for almost two-thirds of Scotland’s exports:

• Food and beverages
• Chemicals
• Business services
• Electronics and instrument engineering
• Mechanical engineering.

Other important Scottish exports

• Textiles
• Oil and gas and fuel-based equipment
• Renewable energies, equipment and technology

Scotland's top export markets:

* USA
* Netherlands
* France
* Germany


The issue facing the UK if it votes to Leave then Scotland will demand another Referendum. Or alternatively, they will invoke ''go it alone talks to remain the EU''. If they then do this then it will almost certainly lead to the break up of the Union. That would be catastrophic because England would have a Tory Government for a Generation.

Why ? - Simply because, key to Labour overturning the results of the last Election would be Labours need to win back the Scottish seats from the SNP. Now although I think Scotland should have voted to leave the Union last year I was always fearful that in England there would be a Conservative Government for 20 years or more.

You have posted your opinion. Hare are some facts.

1. Scotland does not have an automatic right to EU membership as it will be new independent country.
2. It's request for entry to the EU will be clocked by Spain and Belgium due to their own internal independence issues (Basque and Flemish).
3. Scotland does have other industries of course, but their projections were based on a high oil price. The consensus view is that this won't come back for the foreseeable future, as the marginal cost of fracking in the US are much lower, so once the oil price rises, the frackers will gain market share.

Does any of this mean the Scotland won't ask for another referendum? - No.
Does this mean that a Yes vote is far from the certainty which you claim? - you bet.

 

[Two Professors]

As i said, i live here and contribute here, save here........." I might even buy you", You have a very high opinion of yourself, borders on arrogant.

Arrogant narcissists like him are all the same-the last one to know who else is boning their missus!

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Well seeing as how we didn't actually ASK to have a referendum, but have had it foisted upon us by the Tory Party manifesto for it's own party purposes, it's hard to feel anything much at all. It's like NSC being asked to vote on The World's Hardest Creature. On one level you care deeply. On another level you don't give a shit. Seems highly likely tho that anyone who cares enough to vote will vote to confirm their own worldview, same as with any other vote really.

 

[Soulman]

Arrogant narcissists like him are all the same-the last one to know who else is boning their missus!

His interest is in what it means to him financially in Germany, that and stirring the pot.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

As i said, i live here and contribute here, save here........." I might even buy you", You have a very high opinion of yourself, borders on arrogant.

Arrogant, of course. Tongue-in-cheek...definitely not.

 

[Soulman]

Arrogant, of course. Tongue-in-cheek...definitely not.

Just another to get your post count up to nearly 35,000......crikey you have an eerie interest in a country you do not live in.....tongue in cheek of course.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

You have posted your opinion. Hare are some facts.

1. Scotland does not have an automatic right to EU membership as it will be new independent country.
2. It's request for entry to the EU will be clocked by Spain and Belgium due to their own internal independence issues (Basque and Flemish).
3. Scotland does have other industries of course, but their projections were based on a high oil price. The consensus view is that this won't come back for the foreseeable future, as the marginal cost of fracking in the US are much lower, so once the oil price rises, the frackers will gain market share.

Does any of this mean the Scotland won't ask for another referendum? - No.
Does this mean that a Yes vote is far from the certainty which you claim? - you bet.

I've been finding it very inconsistent that the same group who dismiss any economic argument against leaving EU as mere wrong opinion to be ignored, are so strong in their views that Scotland wouldn't vote the leave the UK because of....

....


.... economic arguments.


You've just got to really.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Just another to get your post count up to nearly 35,000......crikey you have an eerie interest in a country you do not live in.....tongue in cheek of course.

I have spare time; I need to fill it with something . I had a very long, but very enjoyable, run this morning and am now recovering litteraly with my legs up. Nout wrong with a few exchanges on NSC about the country I am from and still work with. I will move onto my German homework shortly...then off out.

 

[NooBHA]

You have posted your opinion. Hare are some facts.

1. Scotland does not have an automatic right to EU membership as it will be new independent country.
2. It's request for entry to the EU will be clocked by Spain and Belgium due to their own internal independence issues (Basque and Flemish).
3. Scotland does have other industries of course, but their projections were based on a high oil price. The consensus view is that this won't come back for the foreseeable future, as the marginal cost of fracking in the US are much lower, so once the oil price rises, the frackers will gain market share.













Point 2 above Basque and Flemish Regionals do not have national Governments. Scotland does.


Point 1 - Scotland independently meets the criteria for EU acceptance, in terms of it's Economy and on issues such as Human Rights. Why would Europe reject it. It is the 43rd largest economy in the world and larger than 50% of other nations already within the EU.

Your final 2 points , I sort of agree. It would not Guarantee a referendum nor would any Referendum Guarantee a vote to leave the Union but it could conceivably generate a big enough swing in last year's vote to achieve it. And the point I was really making in that regard was how it would affect the Political voting system in the remainder of the UK, based on the current voting Electoral system.

Point 2 I was responding to the original post and Oil prices fluctuate based on OPEC decisions so the oil prices will rise again but The oil side of things I was merely pointing out that the Scottish Economy is not dependent on it

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Getting back on topic I shall be on a gourmet* city-break next weekend in Brussels. I'll probably feel numb...but this will probably be from the high strength beer.

* chips, mayo, and ale

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Getting back on topic I shall be on a gourmet* city-break next weekend in Brussels. I'll probably feel numb...but this will probably be from the high strength beer.

* chips, mayo, and ale

At least you will be able to add another entry into your predictions I got horrendously wrong file.

As will I.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

I have yet to meet an angry remainer.

Yet most of the Brexiters I've met are angry.

Did you miss gobby Bobby Geldof giving it large with two fingers and Rudd almost bursting on the TV debate then??

 

[The Birdman]

Ask a palace fan

 

[One Love]

Did you miss gobby Bobby Geldof giving it large with two fingers and Rudd almost bursting on the TV debate then??

I can't remember meeting them.

 

[Prince Monolulu]

The stature of the singer and the title couldn't sum it up better for me now.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

I can't remember meeting them.

Maybe you have just been baiting them.

But do you remember seeing how aggressive they were.
Nasty bunch those remain.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Getting back on topic I shall be on a gourmet* city-break next weekend in Brussels. I'll probably feel numb...but this will probably be from the high strength beer.

* chips, mayo, and ale

Another great exmple of the freedom of movement in the EU that we all benefit from