[Politics] Brexit

[DavidinSouthampton]

This lot for the LEAVE campaign says it all... and now The Sun... Who next Katie Hopkins, Jack the Ripper...

Decision made

Katie Hopkins already is, isn't she?

I've already postal voted. I am devastated that I can not comply with Mr Murdoch's Diktat.

 

[lawros left foot]

What would you call Americans who don't want to join a political/economic union?Or people from Norway?Or Australia?Or Thailand?Or Japan?Or China?Or Peru?Or around 180 other countries around the world?

Hit a nerve, have I?

 

[fat old seagull]

But what I find strange Scotland want independence to govern themselves but then want to join Euro lol.

From The Telegraph.....
Simon Johnson, scottish political editor
10 JUNE 2016 • 7:32PM
Nicola Sturgeon has been forced to deny she is a Unionist after she passionately argued that countries sharing political sovereignty in the EU is mutually beneficial.

The First Minister admitted some people think it is a “bit odd” that she wants to stay in the EU but leave the UK, but argued that the two cases were “very different.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

If you take the £350m a week at face value it equates to about £18bn a year. Net of rebates etc the consensus is a figure somewhere between £6bn and £9bn. Since the first poll was published last week showing Leave ahead the FTSE 100 has dropped by around 300 points - in financial terms that's a drop in value of around £80bn. Financial markets are pretty ruthless - value is driven by future prospects. So if Leave say the economy will be fine, probably worth asking why people whose only job is to make money out of the economy think the exact opposite....

That's not how financial markets work. The convention at the moment is to sell when Brexit leads. That is the money making trade and you would be foolish to back against it. This tells us nothing about the reaction to an actual Brexit. In fact short sellers are likely to take profits. The old adage is 'sell the rumour, buy the fact.' You certainly cannot gauge the economic implications of anything from short term movements in stock prices.

 

[kevo]

"I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. “That’s easy,” he replied. “When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.” - Anthony Hilton

 

[RandyWanger]

Dear Marje,
I am a massive ******* but whenever I try to stamp on my worker's rights and make them work lonfer hours for less money some jumped-up foreigh johnnies tell me I can't. What is a ******* to do?

Dear *******,
This is an easy one. Appeal to the xenophobia of your workers and get them to vote out of Europe. Suggest the migrant crisis is linked to it in some vague way. Once they vote out you can do whatever you like to **** them over as they will have no-one to appeal to - problem solved!

 

[lawros left foot]

Priti Patel, Tory Minister and leading Leave supporter says when we are out of the EU the VAT on gas and electricity bills can be abolished which 'will help the poorest'.
On 28 Jun 2010:
Priti Patel voted to raise VAT to 20% from the 4th of January 2011.
On 28 Jun 2011:
Priti Patel voted not to decrease the main rate of VAT by 2.5% to 17.5% for one year as of the 30th of August 2011.
On 3 Jul 2012:
Priti Patel voted against cutting VAT from 20% to 17.5%
On 18 Apr 2013:
Priti Patel voted against reducing VAT from 20% to 17.5%
Trust Priti to have our best interests at heart

Tut, tut, you'll be saying she's a hypocrite next

 

[Grombleton]

I'm still surprised there's even people who think The Sun's stance on ANYTHING is in the least bit respectable or holds any influence. The media equivalent of pond life.

 

[Hamilton]

Are you sure Machiavelli is the right name for you? You seem very accepting of the situation as it's being presented to us. You maybe right. I'm a cynical old goat though and strongly suspect that contingencies might well be in place to mitigate a "leave" vote. I simply find it very hard to believe that the EU will let us leave without at least some attempt at bringing us back into the fold.

Other opinions are available of course. Best of luck to you, sir.

That's a very dangerous game to be playing. If that is what Boris is counting on, then we are entering even more duplicitous political water. I wouldn't put it past him. He probably thinks he can play everyone at their game and come out a winner. Gambler extraordinaire.

 

[beardy gull]

Don't give a blind cobblers **** what the scum think,all I hope for is that a week Friday Britain wakes up as a free country again,as many have said,"been waiting all my adult life for the opportunity to leave"

You think? Then you're wrong.

People also think if we vote leave, it will happen in months. It will take years to sort out.

2 years I've read.Better 2 or 3 or 5 then years and years to come still in the EU.

If indeed it happens at all.....

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[Bladders]

He bought those votes fair and square and ended up with more than UEFA's preferred candidate. Democracy in action.

Yes, no doubt he did.

 

[Pinkie Brown]

Vile rag for simpletons that hacks the phone of a dead child and has printed so many false stories down the years, too many to mention, comes out in favour Brexit? Hardly unexpected. By his own admission, easier for Murdoch to influence a single government than a whole continents.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

You think? Then you're wrong.






If indeed it happens at all.....

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Interesting. If it is VERY close, then you could see a case made for further discussion before a 2nd referendum, but unless there is only a marginal number of votes in it, they pretty much have to stick with the result don't they ?

 

[Machiavelli]

Are you sure Machiavelli is the right name for you? You seem very accepting of the situation as it's being presented to us. You maybe right. I'm a cynical old goat though and strongly suspect that contingencies might well be in place to mitigate a "leave" vote. I simply find it very hard to believe that the EU will let us leave without at least some attempt at bringing us back into the fold.

Other opinions are available of course. Best of luck to you, sir.

Machiavelli is much misunderstood, whether in the sixteenth or twenty-first century.
And to repeat an earlier point, this is a decision for the UK electorate. Once put like that, it indicates that the much-fabled 'loss of sovereignty' that the Leave camp bang on about is a load of old tosh. But, then again, the Remain camp are too feeble to formulate such an argument (am I beginning to sound more like the Machiavelli you know?). What the EU want doesn't come into it. If you go into this vote thinking that another attempt is just around the corner, you're not willing to accept the enormity of the decision in front of us.

 

[beardy gull]

Interesting. If it is VERY close, then you could see a case made for further discussion before a 2nd referendum, but unless there is only a marginal number of votes in it, they pretty much have to stick with the result don't they ?

It would appear not. Brexiters living in cloud cuckoo land if they believe an out vote changes anything straight away.

http://blogs.ft.com/david-allen-gre...vernment-legally-disregard-a-vote-for-brexit/

 

[Nixonator]

THIS.
IS.
BRUSSELS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1UUCDFZlBk&feature=youtu.be&t=1966

 

[Bold Seagull]

The power will then reside with us, right, right!?

I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. “That’s easy,” he replied. “When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.” - Anthony Hilton

 

[Buzzer]

Why oh why won't those pesky peasants simply do as their told and listen to their betters? Working class people are so frightful and common.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Why oh why won't those pesky peasants simply do as their told and listen to their betters? Working class people are so frightful and common.

Is this your take on Murdoch? He seems to be the only one telling the peasants what to do.

 

[Eeyore]

Anthony Hilton column in the Evening Standard:

'I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. 'That’s easy,' he replied. 'When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.'