Adam johnson sacked

[spence]

If it had been someone not in the public domain there is no way he would have got 6 years. Really fine use of resources in our overcrowded prisons...

100% this

 

[mistahclarke]

6 years and didn't even sleep with her.

What do rapists get these days? And what's the charge rate due to lack of evidence?

He was stupid and broke the law, but can't help feeling there are more deserving in this world to be locked away.

 

[Megazone]

I'm not defending Adam Johnson, but what was the sentence Stuart Hall received for his crimes?

 

[The Wizard]

Only slightly less than McCormick the drink driver who killed two children and the same as Lee Hughes who killed someone drink driving. Staggering, not defending Johnson just to clarify, he deserved a sentence but this seems absolutely ridiculous to me IMO.

 

[Monkey Man]

The whole thing is a mess. A little girl will grow up without her dad being there for her, a footballer's career is cut short, the victim is emotionally scarred, the taxpayer has to pick up the bill for a significant prison term, a great club is embarrassed. All because a young and very rich bloke in the public eye made an appalling error of judgement. I take no pleasure from the severity of the sentence at all but, my god, he had enough opportunities to call a halt to what was happening. And the law has to protect the potential victims of the future.

 

[drew]

Can't believe some of the posts on here. 'I'm not condoning what he did but.......'

Laughable describing what he did as 'an error of judgement' or ' a mistake'.

 

[Triggaaar]

Going by the Judges endless summing up the death sentence could be a possibility.

 

[British Bulldog]

Deserves his sentence the chuffing pervert.

 

[Triggaaar]

Has it not become a media circus ?

That's the problem these days, too may paedophiles having to face charges.

 

[Gullflyinghigh]

That's the problem these days, too may pedophiles having to face charges.

And people hear about it as well. Poor lambs.

The court of public opinion that starts long before any verdict is handed down always seems wrong to me (Ched Evans or even the Albion players being cases in point), but once the case has concluded...sympathy for the guilty dwindles somewhat.

 

[Chinman3000]

I understand why some may think 6 years is harsh, probably because If he had done it in China he would have got nothing, but If he had done it in the USA he would have got 20+ years.

He did in in the UK and got 6. He was a millionaire footballer who could of had his pick of many girls. He picked a child.

 

[Acker79]

The court of public opinion that starts long before any verdict is handed down always seems wrong to me (Ched Evans or even the Albion players being cases in point).

It's wrong to conflate those two cases. One resulted in a guilty verdict (albeit one that is still being challenged), the other did not.

 

[Triggaaar]

I understand why some may think 6 years is harsh, probably because If he had done it in China he would have got nothing, but If he had done it in the USA he would have got 20+ years.

Unless he had Michael Jackson's lawyers and paid the girl not to give evidence, in which case we could all pretend he was innocent, while knowing deep down he's a kiddie fiddler.

 

[Gullflyinghigh]

It's wrong to conflate those two cases. One resulted in a guilty verdict (albeit one that is still being challenged), the other did not.

I was drawing no comparisons between the two in terms of severity of offence or the verdict, more the rampant speculation that accompanied each case prior to their conclusions.

The Evans case especially was seemingly treated like some sort of soap opera by a section of the wider public. Horrible.

 

[BensGrandad]

I understand why some may think 6 years is harsh, probably because If he had done it in China he would have got nothing, but If he had done it in the USA he would have got 20+ years.

He did in in the UK and got 6. He was a millionaire footballer who could of had his pick of many girls. He picked a child.

Is that not the same in most European countries it wouldn't have been a crime, but that is not the point it is in this country and he knew it was

 

[gregbrighton]

 

[Acker79]

I was drawing no comparisons between the two in terms of severity of offence or the verdict, more the rampant speculation that accompanied each case prior to their conclusions.

The Evans case especially was seemingly treated like some sort of soap opera by a section of the wider public. Horrible.

But Evans has mostly been treated that way since he was found guilty, which is not the same as the basing it on rampant speculation.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yeh I know where you're coming from and I agree he got what he deserved and it's poor that he knew the age and still pursued it. Of course, we don't know for sure if he did actually touch her apart from the kiss he's admitted to which would sway a number of opinions on the severity of the crime. In my book, to use the P word alongside the likes of Saville is harsh due to her age. Sex offender yes, Paedo, no. Not everyone will share my opinion of course, but I think there's a huge difference in what he did and what someone who goes after 8 yr olds does. I appreciate not everyone will agree and will want to call him a nonce etc...

The count he was convicted on, was sexual touching - penetration with his fingers. So we do know for sure that he touched her.

 

[BensGrandad]

Ched Evans decision put back to as soon as possible in April. What does this indicate good or bad news for him? I think bad as had it been good they would, I should have thought, given it immediately. to save more money if he sues for wrongful arrest.

 

[Gullflyinghigh]

But Evans has mostly been treated that way since he was found guilty, which is not the same as the basing it on rampant speculation.

Agreed, he has been. The initial post of mine you quoted did say (I hope) that it's this treatment happening prior to any verdict being handed down that makes me uncomfortable, not afterwards (though maybe it should).

Obviously there's now an appeal going on so that confuses the issue slightly with regards to him but, if there hadn't been (for the sake of trying to make my view clear), then I wouldn't be concerned at all with how he was being viewed/discussed/treated in the public eye.