Leonardo Ulloa was an £8 million bargain for Leicester, says Nigel Pearson...

[Thunder Bolt]

But that's of secondary importance. The actual value in the British market was far in excess of £3million and I'd argue that the time Leicester spent messing about has had a detrimental effect on this season. Leicester always knew they were going to get him, and they knew that had up to £8 million to spend so all was quantifiable for them. What makes this more surprising is that we'd just dealt with Leicester over Upson, so you'd think we might have cut through the bullshit a bit quicker.

I would dispute that we dealt with Leicester over Upson. He was out of contract, refused to sign one that we'd offered, and chose to go elsewhere.

 

[Rogero]

Would anyone like to guess how the adds are calculated.
Would it be number of goals or staying up? Has anyone out there any idea how it would work?

 

[Dorset Seagull]

But that's of secondary importance. The actual value in the British market was far in excess of £3million and I'd argue that the time Leicester spent messing about has had a detrimental effect on this season.

Do you really think Leicester care about the effect it had on our season? It was a negotiation, that's the way the transfer market works

 

[Bozza]

Would anyone like to guess how the adds are calculated.
Would it be number of goals or staying up? Has anyone out there any idea how it would work?

Yes, but I can't really say. I am very confident that the deal will have been worth over £10m to us by the end of this season.

 

[Bozza]

I'll also add that from what I can gather, Paul Barber is very, very adept at securing very good deals for the Albion when it comes to add-ons for player sales. Things like:

- £X if you stay up
- £Y if you get relegated but get promoted again

 

[looney]

But that my point! Premier League club pays £5mill - £10mill to Championship club, big Championship club pays smaller Championship £4mill-£6mill (Charlie Austin, Jordan Rhodes), Championship club pays £2mill - £5mill to League 1 club (see Assombalonga. CMS, Baldock).

Leicester conducted business like they were still in the Championship dealing with a Peterborough or a Bristol City in League 1. They were offering £3million when relegated Fulham were buying Ross McCormack from Leeds for £11 million.

Its not Leicester its us. We are the type of club that people assume sell for peanuts(and palace). When palaCE Wanted top dollar for zaha they got laughed at and made to haggle with vaeious clubs. Wereas Stains demand top price for the likes of oxo and get it no questions asked. Its a rep and attitude thing.

Open a thread asking for values on any Albion player and the numbers you get back are rediculesly small on average. Its all to do with the wrong expectations.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Its not Leicester its us. We are the type of club that people assume sell for peanuts(and palace). When palaCE Wanted top dollar for zaha they got laughed at and made to haggle with vaeious clubs. Wereas Stains demand top price for the likes of oxo and get it no questions asked. Its a rep and attitude thing.

Open a thread asking for values on any Albion player and the numbers you get back are rediculesly small on average. Its all to do with the wrong expectations.

You make a good point. The Southampton and Palace academies have produced a lot of talent and have received good money. Their goog reputation seems to be reflected in the fees they get for their good youth products. On the face of it letting Bridcutt, Buckley and Barnes got for c. £6.5million looks poor business now, but hopefully the Ulloa deal will signal a change.

 

[Icy Gull]

The most suprising thing about the Ulloa transfer, which I did think was a phenomenal bit of business, is that we haven't bothered with a replacement of a similar type of player but have gone for small strikers and a journeyman as his replacement.

It is the lack of quality upfront that sees us languishing just above the relegation zone.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The most suprising thing about the Ulloa transfer, which I did think was a phenomenal bit of business, is that we haven't bothered with a replacement of a similar type of player but have gone for small strikers and a journeyman as his replacement.

It is the lack of quality upfront that sees us languishing just above the relegation zone.

The phrasing of 'haven't bothered' is quite emotive. It's quite possible that the scouts haven't found anyone as good as Ulloa, or the timing is wrong, or that the striker concerned wasn't interested in us. As most transfers negotiations are private, we don't know who or what the targets are.

 

[Icy Gull]

The phrasing of 'haven't bothered' is quite emotive. It's quite possible that the scouts haven't found anyone as good as Ulloa, or the timing is wrong, or that the striker concerned wasn't interested in us. As most transfers negotiations are private, we don't know who or what the targets are.

None of our current strikers in any way resembles Ulloa, so we either haven't bothered or we have decided Ulloa type strikers are not what we need surely? We didn't have to buy small strikers.

I find it hard to believe that there isn't a big striker who can hold the ball up and score goals out there. Not as good as Ulloa almost certainly but as we have bought League One strikers maybe we should have looked to League One or Two for an Ulloa type, albeit not as good? Instead we replicate what we had already in CMS by buying Baldock. Bizarre imo.

 

[Prince Monolulu]

Money was more than enough, just wish we had a replacement above 5ft tall.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

None of our current strikers in any way resembles Ulloa, so we either haven't bothered or we have decided Ulloa type strikers are not waht we need surely. We didn't have to buy small strikers?

I find it hard to believe that there isn't a big striker who can hold the ball up and score goals out there. Not as good as Ulloa almost certainly but as we have bought League One strikers maybe we should have looked to League One or Two for an Ulloa type, albeit not as good? Instead we replicate what we had already in CMS by buying Baldock. Bizarre imo.

Name them, and are they available?

 

[Hugh'sDad]

<Daily Mail>: "The Foxes boss knows there were one or two raised eyebrows when he splashed the cash for the 28-year-old.

But it's a gamble that's paying off and Pearson is convinced it's been money well spent.

He said: "When you look at how much players cost right now, I don't think it was expensive.

"We broke our record to get him but we felt he had the qualities we needed - not just in terms of goals, but his link-up play has been excellent too."


The significance for me of this story in today's Daily Mail is that Leicester originally offered £3 million for the player, a derisory amount but an offer that doubtless turned the players head. They ended up paying £8 million and Pearson is implying Albion's valuation of £10 million might actually have been spot on.

How is ANY of this helping football?

Had Leicester paid the going rate at the start we would have had cash in the bank and more time to source a proper replacement, not scrabbling around two weeks before the start of the season and panic-buying O'Grady, Colunga and Baldock. Indeed, this is the reason we sit in 19th place today.

Go fvck yourselves Leicester.

It was only 18 months ago we picked Almeria's pocket , then sold him on for a factor of 6.

He's 28, had an offer of big wages and a chance to play in the premiership......good luck to him.

Keep an eye on your BP son, it's only a game.

 

[Icy Gull]

Name them, and are they available?

If I was paid to spend my life looking I can assure your 100% that I could, as it is I am not employed by the club to spot strikers. But I'm not glibly going to shrug my shoulders and not query why we have such small strikers by assuming that was all that was available.

 

[GT49er]

<Daily Mail
The significance for me of this story in today's Daily Mail is that Leicester originally offered £3 million for the player, a derisory amount but an offer that doubtless turned the players head. They ended up paying £8 million and Pearson is implying Albion's valuation of £10 million might actually have been spot on.
Had Leicester paid the going rate at the start we would have had cash in the bank and more time to source a proper replacement, not scrabbling around two weeks before the start of the season and panic-buying O'Grady, Colunga and Baldock.

We'd been chasing Baldock for a long time, haggling over the price. So we were doing exactly the same to Bristol City as Leicester were doing to us.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

If I was paid to spend my life looking I can assure your 100% that I could, as it is I am not employed by the club to spot strikers. But I'm not glibly going to shrug my shoulders and not query why we have such small strikers by assuming that was all that was available.

When Aranalde found Ulloa, there were problems with his passport which is why we had to wait 18 months for the Spanish second division's highest scorer.
I think you are over simplifying it.

 

[Icy Gull]

When Aranalde found Ulloa, there were problems with his passport which is why we had to wait 18 months for the Spanish second division's highest scorer.
I think you are over simplifying it.

I think the club let Murray go without securing a replacement and the fact that it took 18 months to secure one says more about our tardiness in signing decent strikers than my over simplifying it. We are back in the same cycle now having got good money for Ulloa but not replacing him. Maybe we have our eye on someone we'll sign in January 2016?

 

[nwgull]

When Aranalde found Ulloa, there were problems with his passport which is why we had to wait 18 months for the Spanish second division's highest scorer.
I think you are over simplifying it.

Doesn't work like that on Football Manager though; I think that's why so many people get frustrated and don't understand the ins and outs of transfers.

 

[Icy Gull]

Doesn't work like that on Football Manager though; I think that's why so many people get frustrated and don't understand the ins and outs of transfers.

Never played it, is it good then?

Plenty of clubs manage to have a decent stream of strikers coming though, being bought or on loan. We are not very successful in securing Championship quality strikers. This is our fourth season in the Championship and we have had a grand total of one striker of the right class for this league, but keep up the facetious comments that actually add nothing to the discussion though.

 

[nwgull]

Never played it, is it good then?

Plenty of clubs manage to have a decent stream of strikers coming though, being bought or on loan. We are not very successful in securing Championship quality strikers. This is our fourth season in the Championship and we have had a grand total of one striker of the right class for this league, but keep up the facetious comments that actually add nothing to the discussion though.

I'm surprised you don't play it; it's for kids, and you are whinging on and complaining like an entitled brat.