Barber will be the next to leave

[e77]

Perhaps Looney would care to expand on why he thinks Barber isn't destined for bigger things instead of just giving me a thumbs down?

 

[KZNSeagull]

As Gus said in the summer, when Barber arrived he predicted it would take him two years to undo all the good work he (Gus) previously did

You mean the assembling of a squad that we clearly could not afford, who failed to beat a bunch of clowns in the play-off semi's?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Nothing bad has happened - yet. But if i entrusted someone with one of my businesses and it found itself returning worse results each year I'd be calling them in for a little word.

Small point, the business hasn't returned worse results each year. On the pitch we've made the play offs two years on the trot - an improvement on the 10th the season before. Off the pitch losses have become less and revenue has increased.

 

[Rugrat]

Sorry, but bollocks, bollocks and bollocks.

He is CEO - Chief Executive Officer. Not CFO. Not Marketing Director. In charge. Of the whole club. If his making a profit leads to us going down the club is f***ed and he would be the one to go. I'm sure he knows that.

I suspect it's TB that sets all the key financial objectives such as playing budget, revenue and cost objectives and overall P&L. I then imagine it's PB job to drill down and add all the detail and develop all the activities to deliver

I very much doubt PB can simply but the brakes on the playing budget just to make a profit (or smaller loss) although TB can and will

You talk in an earlier post about "entrusting" someone with one of your businesses. That's typically how it works (in a public business anyway). The CEO doesn't get to chose the objectives they are set by the parent business or operating board. I've no reason to believe it happens any different at BHA just that TB occupies a more powerful individual role

 

[Giraffe]

Barber may well be on bonuses to achieve FFP targets. I am sure he is well on his way to achieve those targets. He won't be leaving anytime soon.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Small point, the business hasn't returned worse results each year. On the pitch we've made the play offs two years on the trot - an improvement on the 10th the season before. Off the pitch losses have become less and revenue has increased.

Hence the "if". "If" we finish lower than 10th this season and "if" the revenue side of the balance sheet suffers as a result then I would expect the buck to stop with Paul Barber. I didn't say it had happened yet.

 

[Knotty]

Well done for jumping to several conclusions at once.

Tony Bloom is paying Paul Barber handsomely - very handsomely - to run his football club for him. Performance on the field is therefore part of his remit.

Believe it or not TB has more going on than Brighton and Hove Albion FC and therefore employs someone else to run it for him. If something bad happens to the club on Barber's watch then he'll be held accountable and no mistake.

You are the one jumping to conclusions.

You have no idea how TB has structured the executive management of the club and exactly what he demands of them. You have no idea if he holds PB responsible for on-the-field matters or not.

If I owned the club I would entrust my CEO with responsibility for many things but not necessarily everything. I would expect him to be involved, with me, in the recruitment of senior football staff and players, but NOT for what happens on the pitch. The Manager and coaching staff would have that direct responsibility. If I wanted a CEO to have responsibility for that, too, then he would have to have had coaching and tactical experience.

There can't be many people around who have the necessary experience and expertise in ALL aspects of running a football club.

 

[albionant]

Isn't the main focus that under Barber's watch, revenue has increased slightly, but our losses at 8m and 14.8 m have eaten that up and spiraled out of control. I have recently had to contact him regarding an issue and although he was quick to respond he lacked credibility and I have little doubt that he is selfsurving.

 

[spring hall convert]

As Gus said in the summer, when Barber arrived he predicted it would take him two years to undo all the good work he (Gus) previously did

Fair enough. GP has proven himself to be a trustworthy character.

"All the good work." Can you remind me how much money we lost in the last finanical year again?

 

[spring hall convert]

Isn't the main focus that under Barber's watch, revenue has increased slightly, but our losses at 8m and 14.8 m have eaten that up and spiraled out of control. I have recently had to contact him regarding an issue and although he was quick to respond he lacked credibility and I have little doubt that he is selfsurving.

8m wasn't Barber, the £14.8 wasn't fully Barber IIRC. The next set of results will be the first ones that are totally "on his watch." Pretty unfair to judge him on someone else's mess.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Barber is a top Premier League Chief Executive in waiting, IMHO.

He's already been in the Prem though.

 

[spring hall convert]

Why do so many on here feel that because we have a shiny new stadium we are suddenly going to be competing with the likes of Arsenal

I don't think there are many that think that. Perhaps that's why your the biggest pessimist on here.

Most people are happy where we are. Sure we'd like to see some PL football but it's not the be all and end all.

 

[Martlet]

Well done for jumping to several conclusions at once.

Tony Bloom is paying Paul Barber handsomely - very handsomely - to run his football club for him. Performance on the field is therefore part of his remit.

Believe it or not TB has more going on than Brighton and Hove Albion FC and therefore employs someone else to run it for him. If something bad happens to the club on Barber's watch then he'll be held accountable and no mistake.

Nothing bad has happened - yet. But if i entrusted someone with one of my businesses and it found itself returning worse results each year I'd be calling them in for a little word.

You assume that i think that this has happened. It hasn't. But it might.

Agree with this entirely. I was invited to watch the Brentford game in the directors box, and saw first hand how fed up all the Brighton board were with the result, Bloom and Barber included.

Both of them have to sit next to their equivalents every week - at least we get to have a good moan to our friends next to us during the game!

They're all football people and aren't stupid. Bloom also knows enough to not pile in on a losing hand.

More and more I'm realising how lucky we were with Oscar last year - he just about kept us on track with some good players delivering when it mattered. This year is about rebuilding, with a new manager and new squad. If it's not right by November , I can see big changes.

 

[Brighton Mod]

Someone is selling Tony 'the Emperors New Clothes', its probably him, they all get found out in the end. Its about the football, the results and pleasing the fans, 'customers'. Its not about, £96 meals, being a 'Friend of the Albion', the programme, the pies ( if you can get one), the Academy, the website, replica shirts or £6.80 for brandy and lemonade. Don't forget first and foremost we are a FOOTBALL CLUB!

 

[Rugrat]

Don't forget first and foremost we are a FOOTBALL CLUB!

10+ years ago definitely/maybe, Yes

Not criticising anyone but today we are a "Commercial organisation in the business of football"

 

[Knotty]

Someone is selling Tony 'the Emperors New Clothes', its probably him, they all get found out in the end. Its about the football, the results and pleasing the fans, 'customers'. Its not about, £96 meals, being a 'Friend of the Albion', the programme, the pies ( if you can get one), the Academy, the website, replica shirts or £6.80 for brandy and lemonade. Don't forget first and foremost we are a FOOTBALL CLUB!

That statement is laughable in so many ways.

 

[Man of Harveys]

I have said before Barber doesn't seem to fully understand the value of good will and it's benefit during down turns. He's alienated too many with his simplistic price increases; anyone can jack up prices during the good times. It looks like we're heading for a lean on-pitch period and we will see a sharp decline in income as a result. Maybe Bloom will see this a get shot of him.

This, this and thrice this.

 

[maltaseagull]

How much of his job is to with the team?

Surely his remit is only the commercial side......

Dead right, but we cannot blame the manager or the players so it must be Barbers fault!

 

[greyseagull]

Fair enough. GP has proven himself to be a trustworthy character.

"All the good work." Can you remind me how much money we lost in the last finanical year again?

Blimey, just relaying what was said. He also (when he first joined Sunderland) stood up at home and wrote each name of the most recent starting Sunderland XI against the most recent Brighton starting XI on a white board. "Each one in that Brighton side, could easily get into this Sunderland side", is what he said. But hey, I guess "my source" is making this all up.

 

[keaton]

Fair enough. GP has proven himself to be a trustworthy character.

"All the good work." Can you remind me how much money we lost in the last finanical year again?

Wouldn't that be more Barber, Burke and Bloom's responsibility than Gus'?