"To be around players like us may be a life-changing experience for them"

[Buzzer]

The 'lack of judgement' suggestion arises from someone calling a whole group of players vile, (extremely unpleasant, morally bad, wicked, and of little worth), based on an isolated quote from a single source by a single player whilst at the same time discounting quotes from other sources suggesting quite the opposite - maybe you'd call that a good judgement call - in my opinion it just shows lack of judgement of any kind.

In other words, you mean something different to 'lack of judgement'.

 

[Commander]

Is that being a good guy? Sounds like being normal to me.

I'd like to see how many people on this board would be 'normal' when worshipped by thousands of people to do the job you love and being paid millions of pounds a year to do it from a young age. I'm fairly sure I wouldn't be.

 

[Eeyore]

Even in context, he's suggesting that impoverished Brazilians should be inspired by meeting him - an England footballer they've never heard of! Woo!

Would be nice to think that he would be inspired by meeting people at the opposite end of the socio-economic spectrum to himself - his lucky, lucky self.

But it doesn't sound like it, really.

I know what your saying, but I'm not convinced (simply because I don't know) that he meant to be in any way condescending. It may have just come out in words that were not as well formed as they could have been.

 

[Stat Brother]

Even in context, he's suggesting that impoverished Brazilians should be inspired by meeting him - an England footballer they've never heard of! Woo!

Would be nice to think that he would be inspired by meeting people at the opposite end of the socio-economic spectrum to himself - his lucky, lucky self.

But it doesn't sound like it, really.

To me it reads like 'hey what'ya know, there's 100,000 people living normal lives, it's nothing like what I was expecting.
They're certainly not going to meet an international footballer everyday'.

For all I know he might have said that after having a kick about, where everybody was really pleased to be with him.

 

[Creaky]

Even in context, he's suggesting that impoverished Brazilians should be inspired by meeting him - an England footballer they've never heard of! Woo!

Would be nice to think that he would be inspired by meeting people at the opposite end of the socio-economic spectrum to himself - his lucky, lucky self.

But it doesn't sound like it, really.

He may well be inspired as this quote suggests he has been, "It's really humbling coming to an area like this" but the one who really, really need to experience a life changing experience surely are the kids in the Favellas. If they can be shown that life as they know it is not the norm then that can only be for the good.

 

[Wozza]

Unlike you I don't rely on a single source or even worse an isolated 'quote', before making a judgement.

No, you believe the PR version!

Tell you what, you keep quoting press releases, and I'll post breaking news on NSC.

You know, like Thatcher and Mayall's death.

(Both posts were based on a single source)

 

[Creaky]

In other words, you mean something different to 'lack of judgement'.

Yes you are right - 'lack of good judgement'

 

[LargeHadronZugzwang]

There's so much football punditry these days, shows go on for hours, Footballers bound to mix up clichés. The main thing is to concentrate on the game itself when the pitch starts talking on the players and they get the road on the show.

 

[Triggaaar]

I'd like to see how many people on this board would be 'normal' when worshipped by thousands of people to do the job you love and being paid millions of pounds a year to do it from a young age. I'm fairly sure I wouldn't be.

It's the young that could be the problem for many of us. It's all well and good now that we've grown up being very ordinary, but it's difficult to imagine how we'd be if we had been worshiped when young.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I notice they had a knock-about with the locals. I wonder what the Brazilians thought seeing the ball sailing over their heads up to Rooney every time England got possession?

 

[Commander]

Have you not heard of Ashley Cole?

My brother-in-law is mates with the guy who runs the Chelsea Megastore, and he always said that Ashley Cole was the nicest, most humble, most down to earth of all the Chelsea players. He said he was always approachable, always made time for the kids, always signed autographs and was always very polite. This guy also said that most of the players were arrogant cocks, JT being the worst.

 

[Buzzer]

He may well be inspired as this quote suggests he has been, "It's really humbling coming to an area like this" but the one who really, really need to experience a life changing experience surely are the kids in the Favellas. If they can be shown that life as they know it is not the norm then that can only be for the good.

Can I take you up on this point? How does meeting Adam Lallana become a life-changing point for a Brazilian kid in a favela? And how can meeting a fabulously wealthy foreign footballer show anyone that life in a favela is not the norm? There's zero chance that anything Adam Lallana can show this hypothetical kid will change his life one iota. On the other hand, meeting 100,000 people who live daily in squalor, crime and little hope of escape might just change the world view of a privileged, super-rich footballer.


EDIT - apologies if i appears like I'm being pedantic. I always wonder what the point of these staged photo-opportunities are about. I bet there's few footballers of any nation who would become a better person for having gone to a favela. It's just going to become an interesting dinner story. My favourite(?) comment has to be the Mike Gatting in South Africa quote about a few people 'singing and dancing'.

 

[keaton]

No, you believe the PR version!

Tell you what, you keep quoting press releases, and I'll post breaking news on NSC.

You know, like Thatcher and Mayall's death.

(Both posts were based on a single source)

It's not just England players who might have issues with their egos then

 

[Wozza]

It's not just England players who might have issues with their egos then

Defending my news judgement, that's all.

 

[Creaky]

No, you believe the PR version!

Tell you what, you keep quoting press releases, and I'll post breaking news on NSC.

You know, like Thatcher and Mayall's death.

(Both posts were based on a single source)

Fine - but in neither of those instances did you make a judgement call on the moral standing of politicians or comedians based on that single source

It's not the fact that you quoted a single source or even an abridged and isolated quote at the start of this thread but that on that basis you posted, "Premier League footballers are vile" - note the abridged quote.

 

[dwayne]

Lot of bed wetting drama queens on this thread!!

Stupid think to say especially out of context of whole interview. Hardly paints him as the biggest villain known to man as some are suggesting here ....

He's a good lad

 

[severnside gull]

Difficult.
Lallana comes across as a spoilt little brat - the archetype of the footballer earning much too much much too young.
But if tbere is one truism it is that the only people who can change the lives of people in the favellas it is the people who live there.
I can think of nowhere in the world where poverty doesn't breed corruption and where aid given in good faith isn't directed into the hands of those who already have (relatively) plenty.

 

[Arthur]

Lot of bed wetting drama queens on this thread!!

Stupid think to say especially out of context of whole interview. Hardly paints him as the biggest villain known to man as some are suggesting here ....

He's a good lad

Not often I agree with you but I do in this case (well obviously your first two sentences, being a normal humble human being I don't mix in the circles of premier league footballers so couldn't possibly comment on whether he is a good lad or not).

It was a unfortunate use of language to try and say that the players of one of the world cup squads have bought a bit of joy into some kids lives who haven't had the greatest of upbringings. No more than that. You can spin it how you like but to be honest I'm more interested in the tournament starting and supporting the boys rather than looking for some non existent mud to sling.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Lallana comes across as a spoilt little brat - the archetype of the footballer earning much too much much too young.

I have never thought that. He has always struck me as a well-adjusted lad. Stayed with his club, not a Billy Big-Boots.

 

[BigGully]

I'd like to see how many people on this board would be 'normal' when worshipped by thousands of people to do the job you love and being paid millions of pounds a year to do it from a young age. I'm fairly sure I wouldn't be.

I really do not think it is the worshipping that is the problem outside of Maradonna and other truly world figures, its the continual unsubstantiated opinions of us the 'fans'.

They mistrust us with some reason, if at times they seem aloof or dismissive then it is likely that only the day before they were extremely 'normal' to someone who then tweeted this and facebooked that and contacted some journalist to try and make a story who is already on the look out for any tit bits that could effect their whole family.

Unfortunately in many ways we are the real problem.