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David Burke "Oscar will flag a player he wants, and provided we have budget available..."



RupertsFlan

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Nov 28, 2012
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I think Burke is passing the buck with that comment. Surely he's the man responsible for signing Agustein, Obika, Andrews etc? Equally he's the guy who couldn't keep hold of Bridcutt, Barnes & Conway and failed to replace any of them sufficiently?

Sorry - a lot of what you post is very interesting reading. however this statement is twaddle.

Bridcutt - was always going to leave and the fact that he had some length on his contract meant we got a decent fee. He was always going to leave and there was nothing that could or should have been done to stop him.

Barnes - Is he a premier league player? we shall see. However why give a player a huge pay rise when it is clear he wanted to leave and would not have signed a contract extension - and if he had we would have paid an exorbitant amount of money to keep from January until May. No point.

Conway - who knows what the wage demands were but everyone can take one look at Blackburns finances to know that they will pay huge salaries in this league. Doesn't matter that they are bankrupt in almost every sense of the word and read the message forums on Blackburn where many fans feel that they are in real danger of imploding financially.

Sorry - I can see sense in every single one of the decisions - its bitterly disappointing not to get the players we want and lose the ones that we would like to keep.

But from Spurs to Crewe, from Arsenal to Plymouth most clubs are in fact selling clubs as maximising returns on major assets is probably the only real way that businesses will be able to financially support themselves.

If thats not palatable fair enough.

To suggest that the club should change their approach and salary cap structure is frankly ludicrous.
 




WATFORD zero

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A football team is like a quality Spanish sausage, it needs time to mature. Unless you prefer the cardboard microwave version served up in Witheredspoons.

I suspect THAT Enrest prefers quantity over QUALITY when it comes to HIS Sausages
 






father_and_son

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Jan 23, 2012
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In a corporate world, recruitment works exactly the same way...

Department manager (Garcia) says he needs someone with specific skills. HR department (Burke) will use an agency (Scouting network) to find appropriate candidates. Manager will interview them and make a choice. HR will sort all the paperwork.
Everytime I've been in this situation as the manager, the HR department or the Agency have asked me if there is anyone in particular that I want to approach.

Really don't see the "conspiracy" that others do in the way the club is set up over signings! All large businesses work to this model. There is too much involved in both finding and recruiting the talent for the manager to have to do the paperwork elements.
 






supaseagull

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Feb 19, 2004
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A football team is like a quality Spanish sausage, it needs time to mature. Unless you prefer the cardboard microwave version served up in Witheredspoons.

There are a number of different versions of Chorizo all with different ingredients. At the moment, we have one which tastes quite good when it's cooked properly, but sometimes it fails to live upto the expectations you would want from a good sausage. It's all down to the quality of the ingredients and how it's presented is the problem.
 


El Sid

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There are a number of different versions of Chorizo all with different ingredients. At the moment, we have one which tastes quite good when it's cooked properly, but sometimes it fails to live upto the expectations you would want from a good sausage. It's all down to the quality of the ingredients and how it's presented is the problem.

Good point, but I am prepared to wait and taste the 2014-15 recipe before scouring the aisles for home cured, dust filled offerings.
 




WATFORD zero

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There are a number of different versions of Chorizo all with different ingredients. At the moment, we have one which tastes quite good when it's cooked properly, but sometimes it fails to live upto the expectations you would want from a good sausage. It's all down to the quality of the ingredients and how it's presented is the problem.

Waitrose used to do an Iberian Black pig Chorizo a few years back which was excellent :drool: but the ******** stopped doing it for some reason :angry:

*edit* Don't bother, I'll whooosh myself :dunce:
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Someone should really tell Oscar, Jones or the players because they keep on knocking it around at the back and then punting longballs at no-one in particular or worse at an immobile Ulloa with two massive centre-backs next to him and nowhere near a team-mate

No, they don't. Your description of how we play bears little resemblance to how we play.
That said, we did have a centre-half punting long balls against Yeovil. And every pass was accurate.
 


Foul Play Rocks

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Feb 23, 2013
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I was at the meeting last night and indeed go to all the meetings with guests from the club and regardless of if you agree with everything that's said you always come away knowing how professionally the club is being run behind the scenes. Until you hear these guys speak you don't fully realise how committed they are and the entire thought process that goes into linking every stage of a young kids journey from trials to being a professional footballer in the 1st team squad. Exciting times ahead for the Albion.
 




Pavilionaire

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I've read the tweets and they all sound logical, positive and well-reasoned. That said, how do we know that these young players that we develop won't routinely be sold to stay within FFP? Having lost Crofts we sold Bridcutt, sign Stephens, we get to the business end of the season and Ince is dropped to the bench.
 


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This quote is very out of context. The way you've posted it, it sounds like Oscar tells Burke who he wants, and Burke goes out to try and get that man.
If you look at the first part of the sentence this doesn't appear to be the case:

"We have a brief from Oscar and produce a list of players who are available...Oscar will flag a player he wants, and provided we have the budget available, I will then make contact with the club to enquire."

Oscar's brief could be, "I want a striker" and then Burke compiles a list such as "Obika, Keane, Perica, Rodriguez" and Oscar picks [flags] the player he wants from that list. Hardly the same thing.
 






Foul Play Rocks

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Ireland said this in the Yeovil programme...

They also made the point last night that part of the philosophy was that the structure of the club remains the same regardless of personnel. At some clubs when the manager goes the guy who replaces him restructures everything from the youth team upwards which means that everyone has to learn a new philosophy (way of playing). In the event that Oscar was no longer our manager they would replace him with someone who fitted the philosophy of the club so that as the youth develops and are ready to break through into the 1st team they would already be playing the same style as our 1st team.
 
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fat old seagull

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I'm not a qualified coach, but is Mr Burke suggesting we play Counter Attacking footy? Is that 'The Philosophy' ? Because if he thinks that's what we play I'm dumbfounded. I'm embarrassed about the number of times I've begged for us to do just that.
Memo to Mr Burke... You can't Counter Attack if you are going to fanny around the defensive midfield playing tippy-tippy. Simply because while you are doing that the opposition defence is reforming in readiness and we are becoming man marked. Suck em forward and get out quick.
 


albionalex

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Feb 26, 2009
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This quote is very out of context. The way you've posted it, it sounds like Oscar tells Burke who he wants, and Burke goes out to try and get that man.
If you look at the first part of the sentence this doesn't appear to be the case:

"We have a brief from Oscar and produce a list of players who are available...Oscar will flag a player he wants, and provided we have the budget available, I will then make contact with the club to enquire."

Oscar's brief could be, "I want a striker" and then Burke compiles a list such as "Obika, Keane, Perica, Rodriguez" and Oscar picks [flags] the player he wants from that list. Hardly the same thing.

The way I read it was that Burke will normally present a list of players to Oscar for him to choose, but Oscar can give Burke a specific player to try and sign that was not on Burke's list.
 


severnside gull

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From 4th though. If it carries on at this rate we'll be relegated in our 6th year with Oscar

There will clearly be so few fans remaining that they could relocate the scaffold stands from Withers to the new training ground and sell the Amex to palarse
 




DavidinSouthampton

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This quote is very out of context. The way you've posted it, it sounds like Oscar tells Burke who he wants, and Burke goes out to try and get that man.
If you look at the first part of the sentence this doesn't appear to be the case:

"We have a brief from Oscar and produce a list of players who are available...Oscar will flag a player he wants, and provided we have the budget available, I will then make contact with the club to enquire."

Oscar's brief could be, "I want a striker" and then Burke compiles a list such as "Obika, Keane, Perica, Rodriguez" and Oscar picks [flags] the player he wants from that list. Hardly the same thing.

I am sure that, if Oscar chose to indicate that he was a particular admirer of a certain player, and would dearly like him at the AMEX, that the wheels would be set in motion at least to enquire about said player. I would imagine Oscar would even be asked if there was anybody who had caught his eye.
 




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