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seagull 1979

Praying for points
Aug 29, 2011
648
Bicester
I must admit I am totally amazed at the outcome of this series. Not just for the fact that we've lost, but that no-one, absolutely no-one, has played well (actually, I'll exclude Broad from that).

I know some were confident of an English series win before we went, and others were more cautious, but I can't believe that anyone would have predicted the total shambles we have witnessed. So many players out of touch, which has then led to a lack of confidence and constantly under pressure. The squad selection has been very poor; taking Tremlett, Finn and Rankin who won't get picked.

The next couple of years will need to be spent rebuilding a younger, hungrier team. Maybe Flower isn't the man for the future???


Stokes has been a good addition to the team. Regarding Tremlett & co you can only take the best players available which they did except for leaving Onions at home but he would have been pretty useless as he is missing the extra pace that these pitches and the kookaburra ball require.
 




Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
Harking back to the squad selection thread and this gem from [MENTION=3166]keaton[/MENTION] ...

From the Guardian

STAT OF THE WEEK

77 – the total number of wickets taken in first-class cricket this season by Boyd Rankin, Steven Finn and Chris Tremlett, at a combined average of 29.


69 – the total number of wickets taken in first-class cricket this season by Graham Onions, all on his own, at an average of 18.


Onions, has, of course, the advantage of playing his home games at the Riverside, a boon for any seam bowler. Away from the ground, he has taken a mere 28 wickets in five matches at an average of 19.


Remind me why Onions didn't make the squad?

I've had enough. Goodnight :wave:
 












Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,626
I can understand why they took Finn and Tremlett. Rankin I don't get. I thought Onions should have been on the tour, as he is a key part of a successful county team.

I don't believe he would have made much difference here thoughe; we simply don't have a bowler like Johnson at the present time. We have to take this on the chin much as the Aussies did this summer, then work hard and come back strong this summer.
 




The Fifth Column

Lazy mug
Nov 30, 2010
4,150
Hangleton
My Aussie brother in law who hasn't mentioned cricket in any conversation I've ever had with him for the last 7 years tried it on during the Boxing Day phonecall to my sister over in Oz, it was at that moment I wish they had invented a real life version of the cartoon fist that comes out of the phone. I had to resort instead to several well chosen expletives and convict jibes, oh and he's a ginger too so that got a well earned airing too, wanker.
 




The Fifth Column

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Nov 30, 2010
4,150
Hangleton
GB sums it up well for me:

"I'm not enjoying the cricket England are producing. There's too much rubbish. They're the only side I've seen for a long time that can manage defeat from almost certain victory."
 








Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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The daft thing is, on paper, I don't think there's any way the Australians are 4-0 better (in terms of overall ability in the side). They still have some very ordinary players but they've absolutely pressed home any advantage they've gained in the series. And England have played monumentally badly at key moments.

But by the same token, there was no way England deserved to win 3-0 in the summer either, that gave a false impression of a relatively close series too.

I don't think they're a million miles apart, except for in the confidence stakes, where the Aussies are clearly now on a roll.
 


Buffalo Seagull

Active member
Jun 1, 2006
647
Geelong, Vic, Australia
The daft thing is, on paper, I don't think there's any way the Australians are 4-0 better (in terms of overall ability in the side). They still have some very ordinary players but they've absolutely pressed home any advantage they've gained in the series. And England have played monumentally badly at key moments.

But by the same token, there was no way England deserved to win 3-0 in the summer either, that gave a false impression of a relatively close series too.

I don't think they're a million miles apart, except for in the confidence stakes, where the Aussies are clearly now on a roll.
Totally agree with all of that. In terms of ability, I think the teams are very similar. Both have quality and depth in their bowling, but potential weaknesses in their batting lineups.
 




sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
18,157
town full of eejits
cook is totally demoralised ,. in his after match, on-field interview with mark nicholls he looked like he was going to burst into tears at any moment........5-0 here we come.
 


Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
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Jul 6, 2003
20,271
Make that three :lolol:

Maybe the match fixing talk isn't so fanciful after all?
Do you know what? I almost wish it WERE true. I think this is the most disgusted I've felt about an England performance in any sport in any era. At least in the late 80s and 90s the Aussies were the best side in the world, their current side isn't anywhere near that level. I think I'd rather we were cheats as opposed to a bunch of spineless, gutless, broken rabbits.

Ah well, the only consolation is no one in Australia gives a shit about cricket and this will pass completely unnoticed over there. Isn't that right Tyrone?
 


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